Difference between revisions of "Fascist"
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From time to time [[MRA]]s, others in the [[manosphere]] and supporters are called fascists.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/aug/26/stop-the-name-calling-anger-unites-march-for-men-protesters</ref><ref>https://archive.ph/687SX</ref> |
From time to time [[MRA]]s, others in the [[manosphere]] and supporters are called fascists.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/aug/26/stop-the-name-calling-anger-unites-march-for-men-protesters</ref><ref>https://archive.ph/687SX</ref> |
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| − | The term [[Fascist]] is notoriously difficult to define. |
+ | The term [[Fascist]] is notoriously difficult to define. Two definitions, narrow and broad are offered here. |
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The narrowest possible definition is membership in the ''Italian National Fascist party''. Using this definition the ideology of Fascism is easy to define because it can be found in the manifesto of the party. |
The narrowest possible definition is membership in the ''Italian National Fascist party''. Using this definition the ideology of Fascism is easy to define because it can be found in the manifesto of the party. |
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| + | == Broad == |
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Most broadly a fascist could be seen to be an adherent to Italian fascism, Nazism, the ideology of Francisco Franco in Spain, or someone that seeks to re-establish a very similar system. In this context fascism can be seen as dictatorial and corporatist. Fascists argue that democracy is fundamentally flawed and doomed to fail. Unlike communists and socialists, fascists do not seek to nationalise industry, preferring for private enterprise to continue to operate. Fascists do expect, however, that private enterprise be entirely subordinate to the state and support state initiatives. Even if we accept that Spain under Franco was fascist, no fascist state has lasted more than a few decades so the long term prospects of such a system remain untested. |
Most broadly a fascist could be seen to be an adherent to Italian fascism, Nazism, the ideology of Francisco Franco in Spain, or someone that seeks to re-establish a very similar system. In this context fascism can be seen as dictatorial and corporatist. Fascists argue that democracy is fundamentally flawed and doomed to fail. Unlike communists and socialists, fascists do not seek to nationalise industry, preferring for private enterprise to continue to operate. Fascists do expect, however, that private enterprise be entirely subordinate to the state and support state initiatives. Even if we accept that Spain under Franco was fascist, no fascist state has lasted more than a few decades so the long term prospects of such a system remain untested. |
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| + | Even the broadest possible definition of fascism does not intrinsically include an opposition to immigration or xenophobia since these were absent from Italian fascism or Spain under Franco. Benito Mussolini did eventually start persecuting Jews in Italy but only did so under pressure from Adolf Hitler. |
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Definitions broader than this are meaningless. |
Definitions broader than this are meaningless. |
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Revision as of 09:39, 20 November 2022
From time to time MRAs, others in the manosphere and supporters are called fascists.[1][2]
The term Fascist is notoriously difficult to define. Two definitions, narrow and broad are offered here.
Narrow
The narrowest possible definition is membership in the Italian National Fascist party. Using this definition the ideology of Fascism is easy to define because it can be found in the manifesto of the party.
Broad
Most broadly a fascist could be seen to be an adherent to Italian fascism, Nazism, the ideology of Francisco Franco in Spain, or someone that seeks to re-establish a very similar system. In this context fascism can be seen as dictatorial and corporatist. Fascists argue that democracy is fundamentally flawed and doomed to fail. Unlike communists and socialists, fascists do not seek to nationalise industry, preferring for private enterprise to continue to operate. Fascists do expect, however, that private enterprise be entirely subordinate to the state and support state initiatives. Even if we accept that Spain under Franco was fascist, no fascist state has lasted more than a few decades so the long term prospects of such a system remain untested.
Even the broadest possible definition of fascism does not intrinsically include an opposition to immigration or xenophobia since these were absent from Italian fascism or Spain under Franco. Benito Mussolini did eventually start persecuting Jews in Italy but only did so under pressure from Adolf Hitler.
Definitions broader than this are meaningless.