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The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an international organisation comprising of wealthy nations. Among its other functions the OECD gathers and releases some data relevant to the [[men's rights movement]].
 
   
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OECD data on paid and unpaid work done by men and women shows that in most countries the difference in total work disappears when you add paid & unpaid work together. Moreover the OECD data does not include commute times which would drive up the total for men.
 
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The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an international organisation comprised of wealthy nations. Among its other functions the OECD gathers and releases some data relevant to the [[men's rights movement]].
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OECD data on paid and unpaid work done by men and women shows that in most countries the difference in total work is minimal when paid & unpaid work are added together. Moreover the OECD data does not include commute times which would drive up the total for men. Nor does it factor in the difficulty of the work, with men being far more likely to work outside and in more strenuous occupations.
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The table below was drawn from OECD data on 2 October 2020.<ref>https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=54757</ref><ref>https://archive.is/CqH1V</ref>
   
 
{| class="sortable wikitable"
 
{| class="sortable wikitable"
 
!rowspan="2"|Country
 
!rowspan="2"|Country
 
!rowspan="2"|OECD
 
!rowspan="2"|OECD
!colspan="4"|Time spent in Total Work (minutes per day)
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!colspan="4"|Total Time Spent in Work (minutes per day)
 
|-
 
|-
 
!Male
 
!Male
 
!Female
 
!Female
!Difference
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!Absolute Difference
!Percentage
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!Percentage Difference
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Australia
 
|Australia
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|483.0
 
|483.0
 
|7.3
 
|7.3
|98.5
+
|1.5
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Austria
 
|Austria
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|517.9
 
|517.9
 
|17.8
 
|17.8
|96.6
+
|3.4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Belgium
 
|Belgium
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|417.9
 
|417.9
 
|436.6
 
|436.6
  +
|18.7
|
 
|
+
|4.3
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Canada
 
|Canada
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|488.7
 
|488.7
 
|491.9
 
|491.9
|
+
|3.2
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+
|0.7
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Denmark
 
|Denmark
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|446.2
 
|446.2
 
|437.4
 
|437.4
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+
|8.8
|
+
|2.0
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Estonia
 
|Estonia
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|424.2
 
|424.2
 
|494.1
 
|494.1
  +
|69.9
|
 
  +
|14.1
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Finland
 
|Finland
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|406.0
 
|406.0
 
|445.7
 
|445.7
  +
|39.7
|
 
|
+
|8.9
 
|-
 
|-
 
|France
 
|France
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|370.1
 
|370.1
 
|399.4
 
|399.4
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|29.3
|
 
|
+
|7.3
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Germany
 
|Germany
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|440.0
 
|440.0
 
|447.7
 
|447.7
|
+
|7.7
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+
|1.7
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Greece
 
|Greece
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|369.4
 
|369.4
 
|444.0
 
|444.0
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|74.6
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  +
|16.8
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|-
 
|-
 
|Hungary
 
|Hungary
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|435.0
 
|435.0
 
|496.3
 
|496.3
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|61.3
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  +
|12.4
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Ireland
 
|Ireland
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|467.8
 
|467.8
|444.0
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|487.4
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|19.6
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|
+
|4.0
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Italy
 
|Italy
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|351.5
 
|351.5
 
|439.5
 
|439.5
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|88.0
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  +
|20.0
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Japan
 
|Japan
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|492.6
 
|492.6
|496.3
+
|495.8
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+
|3.2
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+
|0.7
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Korea
 
|Korea
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|468.0
 
|468.0
|487.4
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|484.4
  +
|16.4
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|
+
|3.4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Latvia
 
|Latvia
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|506.7
 
|506.7
 
|541.7
 
|541.7
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|35.0
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|
+
|6.5
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Lithuania
 
|Lithuania
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|505.9
 
|505.9
 
|571.2
 
|571.2
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|65.3
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  +
|11.4
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Luxembourg
 
|Luxembourg
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|451.1
 
|451.1
 
|478.5
 
|478.5
  +
|27.4
|
 
|
+
|5.7
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Mexico
 
|Mexico
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|609.8
 
|609.8
 
|567.6
 
|567.6
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|42.2
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|
+
|7.4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Netherlands
 
|Netherlands
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|430.4
 
|430.4
 
|426.4
 
|426.4
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+
|4.0
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+
|0.9
 
|-
 
|-
 
|New Zealand
 
|New Zealand
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|479.0
 
|479.0
 
|469.0
 
|469.0
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|10.0
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|
+
|2.1
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Norway
 
|Norway
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|445.9
 
|445.9
 
|427.4
 
|427.4
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|18.5
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|
+
|4.3
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Poland
 
|Poland
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|473.6
 
|473.6
 
|498.2
 
|498.2
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|24.6
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|
+
|4.3
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Portugal
 
|Portugal
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|468.6
 
|468.6
 
|559.4
 
|559.4
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|90.8
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  +
|16.2
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|-
 
|-
 
|Slovenia
 
|Slovenia
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|466.3
 
|466.3
 
|520.4
 
|520.4
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|54.1
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  +
|10.4
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|-
 
|-
 
|Spain
 
|Spain
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|382.1
 
|382.1
 
|455.9
 
|455.9
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|73.8
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  +
|16.2
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|-
 
|-
 
|Sweden
 
|Sweden
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|484.0
 
|484.0
 
|495.3
 
|495.3
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+
|9.3
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+
|1.9
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Turkey
 
|Turkey
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|425.8
 
|425.8
|439
+
|439.0
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|13.2
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|
+
|3.0
 
|-
 
|-
 
|United Kingdom
 
|United Kingdom
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|448.7
 
|448.7
 
|464.8
 
|464.8
  +
|16.1
|
 
|
+
|3.5
 
|-
 
|-
 
|United States
 
|United States
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|465.1
 
|465.1
 
|487.1
 
|487.1
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|22.0
|
 
|
+
|4.5
 
|-
 
|-
 
|OECD - Average
 
|OECD - Average
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|453.2
 
|453.2
 
|480.1
 
|480.1
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|26.9
|
 
|
+
|5.6
 
|-
 
|-
 
|China
 
|China
 
|No
 
|No
 
|481.0
 
|481.0
|525
+
|525.0
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|44.0
|
 
|
+
|8.4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|India
 
|India
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|442.3
 
|442.3
 
|536.6
 
|536.6
  +
|94.3
|
 
  +
|17.6
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|South Africa
 
|South Africa
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|397.1
 
|397.1
 
|444.6
 
|444.6
  +
|47.5
|
 
  +
|10.7
|
 
 
|}
 
|}
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The Absolute Difference is the unsigned difference of the total time worked by men and women. The Percentage Difference is the Absolute Difference divided by the time worked by women and multiplied by 100 to arrive at a percentage. Data gathered in Lithuania and Mexico used different methodology as reported by the OECD.
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== Commentary ==
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This and other data on the subject views all work as equally difficult, whereas in reality this is obviously not true. On average men work in more physically demanding and dangerous occupations. On average men also tend to work in occupations that require a higher level of commitment such as requiring regular unpaid overtime.
   
 
== External Links ==
 
== External Links ==
   
* [https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=54757 Time spent in paid and unpaid work, by sex]
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*[https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=54757 Time spent in paid and unpaid work, by sex]
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*[https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/06/12/fathers-day-facts/ Pew Research Centre]<ref>https://archive.is/qzHpf</ref>
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== References ==
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Latest revision as of 15:34, 30 May 2025

OECD logo new.svg.png
GhbuM-LXMAACVYE.jpeg
Mail Online article with a typically misleading headline.

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an international organisation comprised of wealthy nations. Among its other functions the OECD gathers and releases some data relevant to the men's rights movement.

OECD data on paid and unpaid work done by men and women shows that in most countries the difference in total work is minimal when paid & unpaid work are added together. Moreover the OECD data does not include commute times which would drive up the total for men. Nor does it factor in the difficulty of the work, with men being far more likely to work outside and in more strenuous occupations.

The table below was drawn from OECD data on 2 October 2020.[1][2]

Country OECD Total Time Spent in Work (minutes per day)
Male Female Absolute Difference Percentage Difference
Australia Yes 475.7 483.0 7.3 1.5
Austria Yes 500.1 517.9 17.8 3.4
Belgium Yes 417.9 436.6 18.7 4.3
Canada Yes 488.7 491.9 3.2 0.7
Denmark Yes 446.2 437.4 8.8 2.0
Estonia Yes 424.2 494.1 69.9 14.1
Finland Yes 406.0 445.7 39.7 8.9
France Yes 370.1 399.4 29.3 7.3
Germany Yes 440.0 447.7 7.7 1.7
Greece Yes 369.4 444.0 74.6 16.8
Hungary Yes 435.0 496.3 61.3 12.4
Ireland Yes 467.8 487.4 19.6 4.0
Italy Yes 351.5 439.5 88.0 20.0
Japan Yes 492.6 495.8 3.2 0.7
Korea Yes 468.0 484.4 16.4 3.4
Latvia Yes 506.7 541.7 35.0 6.5
Lithuania Yes 505.9 571.2 65.3 11.4
Luxembourg Yes 451.1 478.5 27.4 5.7
Mexico Yes 609.8 567.6 42.2 7.4
Netherlands Yes 430.4 426.4 4.0 0.9
New Zealand Yes 479.0 469.0 10.0 2.1
Norway Yes 445.9 427.4 18.5 4.3
Poland Yes 473.6 498.2 24.6 4.3
Portugal Yes 468.6 559.4 90.8 16.2
Slovenia Yes 466.3 520.4 54.1 10.4
Spain Yes 382.1 455.9 73.8 16.2
Sweden Yes 484.0 495.3 9.3 1.9
Turkey Yes 425.8 439.0 13.2 3.0
United Kingdom Yes 448.7 464.8 16.1 3.5
United States Yes 465.1 487.1 22.0 4.5
OECD - Average N/A 453.2 480.1 26.9 5.6
China No 481.0 525.0 44.0 8.4
India No 442.3 536.6 94.3 17.6
South Africa No 397.1 444.6 47.5 10.7

The Absolute Difference is the unsigned difference of the total time worked by men and women. The Percentage Difference is the Absolute Difference divided by the time worked by women and multiplied by 100 to arrive at a percentage. Data gathered in Lithuania and Mexico used different methodology as reported by the OECD.

Commentary

This and other data on the subject views all work as equally difficult, whereas in reality this is obviously not true. On average men work in more physically demanding and dangerous occupations. On average men also tend to work in occupations that require a higher level of commitment such as requiring regular unpaid overtime.

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Work

Feminists often claim that women did not work until recently. Even brief examination of the historical record should demonstrate that this was not feasible. Societies were not wealthy enough to have many people not-working until recently. Until the 19th century famine was an ever present threat even in Western society.

Assuming our species has been around for around 100,000 years, we have spent 90-100% of our time on this planet as hunter-gatherers (depending on region) and much of the rest of the time engaging in some form of agriculture. The concept of a house wife arose rather recently and represented women who did not have to engage in back-breaking agricultural or factory labour alongside their menfolk. The menfolk meanwhile kept at the back-breaking labour. Women have worked outside of the home in some form or other for most of human history. Originally they gathered and sometimes hunted, then they worked the land alongside men and children. Later a lot of them worked in factories, alongside men and children. Then eventually a few of them got to stay home while the men went out, mainly due to rising standards of living. Eventually this became common in some countries - we call them rich countries. Later the myth of the poor unfulfilled stay at home mother was born and the knowledge that this was in fact an historically privileged position was largely forgotten.

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