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::Unfortunately, this position is a strawman against feminism. Feminists often point to systematic sexism (eg, the gender wage gap), rather than merely saying "hey look, the wealthiest/most-powerful people are men". Thus, they don't fall prey to the apex fallacy — because they aren't just looking at the apex, but rather the rest of the pyramid, too. Ultimately, this abuse of the apex fallacy denies the relative privilege of males over females. |
::Unfortunately, this position is a strawman against feminism. Feminists often point to systematic sexism (eg, the gender wage gap), rather than merely saying "hey look, the wealthiest/most-powerful people are men". Thus, they don't fall prey to the apex fallacy — because they aren't just looking at the apex, but rather the rest of the pyramid, too. Ultimately, this abuse of the apex fallacy denies the relative privilege of males over females. |
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| − | Given that the majority of [[homelessness|homeless]] people are also men, and given that the wage gap is a myth (without forgetting all the other areas where men are disadvantaged), the statement looks less like a strawman than what RationalWiki would like us to think. Moreover, it is often the woman in the family that chooses how the money is spent, so despite the man earning it, does he, in this context, have more or less power than the woman? |
+ | Given that the majority of [[homelessness|homeless]] people are also men, and given that the [[wage gap]] is a myth (without forgetting all the other areas where men are disadvantaged), the statement looks less like a strawman than what RationalWiki would like us to think. Moreover, it is often the woman in the family that chooses how the money is spent, so despite the man earning it, does he, in this context, have more or less power than the woman? |
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Revision as of 01:33, 11 November 2021
The apex fallacy is an informal fallacy in which people judge a group by its most visible and successful members. Many feminists object to men dominating in politics or among the richest and most powerful people. They rarely if ever mention that men dominate among the incarcerated and homeless as well.
Example of the Apex Fallacy:
Most wealthy people are men so men are all wealthy.
The term apex fallacy was coined by Dr Helen Smith.[1]
The apex fallacy is somewhat similar to the earlier frontman fallacy.
RationalWiki
The RationalWiki describes the apex fallacy as MRAs use the term like this:
- This statement is true: The existence of powerful groups of men does not prove that the average man is more powerful than the average woman.
- Unfortunately, this position is a strawman against feminism. Feminists often point to systematic sexism (eg, the gender wage gap), rather than merely saying "hey look, the wealthiest/most-powerful people are men". Thus, they don't fall prey to the apex fallacy — because they aren't just looking at the apex, but rather the rest of the pyramid, too. Ultimately, this abuse of the apex fallacy denies the relative privilege of males over females.
Given that the majority of homeless people are also men, and given that the wage gap is a myth (without forgetting all the other areas where men are disadvantaged), the statement looks less like a strawman than what RationalWiki would like us to think. Moreover, it is often the woman in the family that chooses how the money is spent, so despite the man earning it, does he, in this context, have more or less power than the woman?