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		<title>Robert Brockway at 09:33, 16 December 2024</title>
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		<title>Robert Brockway at 07:16, 9 November 2023</title>
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		<title>Robert Brockway at 13:53, 16 July 2023</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;There was an erosion of women&amp;#039;s rights in the 19th century relative to men&amp;#039;s rights.  The mistake feminists and others make is to extend this to all of history.  This is the o...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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