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		<id>https://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Advocacy&amp;diff=128&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Robert Brockway: Blanked the page</title>
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		<updated>2014-01-08T08:45:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Blanked the page&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Robert Brockway</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Advocacy&amp;diff=124&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Robert Brockway: Robert Brockway moved page Talk:Debating to Talk:Advocacy</title>
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		<updated>2014-01-08T03:27:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Brockway moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Debating&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Debating&quot;&gt;Talk:Debating&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Advocacy&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Advocacy&quot;&gt;Talk:Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Robert Brockway</name></author>
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		<title>Robert Brockway: Created page with &quot;I&#039;m new to the movement (being vocal and open about it anyway) but I have been informalyl debating online and offline for more than 22 years. I cut my teeth in the free and op...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2014-01-08T03:21:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;m new to the movement (being vocal and open about it anyway) but I have been informalyl debating online and offline for more than 22 years. I cut my teeth in the free and op...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;m new to the movement (being vocal and open about it anyway) but I have been informalyl debating online and offline for more than 22 years. I cut my teeth in the free and open source community. This is a community of mostly men that give no quarter in debates. If you make a mistake in your argument they will be all over it.&lt;br /&gt;
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I always take the high moral ground when debating - I stick to the facts. If I can&amp;#039;t back it up I don&amp;#039;t say it. I never ever make ad hominem attacks. I hold to the position that when someone makes an ad hominem attack they are conceding their opponent&amp;#039;s point - if they could attack the argument on merit they would be better off doing so. If they make the attack personal I conclude they could not attack the argument on merit and so are conceding it. Better to say nothing than to get personal. More on this later but I&amp;#039;m going to be encouraging MHRAs to debate from the high moral ground. If you look at the way many ideological feminists debate it can get very nasty and personal.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Brockway</name></author>
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