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		<title>Robert Brockway at 16:06, 16 September 2026</title>
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		<title>Robert Brockway: Created page with &quot;Hi Jane. Until recently the chances a woman could successfully survive and bring up children on her own was very low. This is why we evolved to have the family and societal st...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Hi Jane. Until recently the chances a woman could successfully survive and bring up children on her own was very low. This is why we evolved to have the family and societal st...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hi Jane. Until recently the chances a woman could successfully survive and bring up children on her own was very low. This is why we evolved to have the family and societal structures that we do.&lt;br /&gt;
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That all changed somewhat recently. Within the last few hundred years.&lt;br /&gt;
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You brought up those children within an advanced industrialised society. That society keeps you and everyone else safe in a myriad of ways. This is part of the &amp;quot;illusion of independence&amp;quot; talked about in the post and elsewhere. You and I and virtually everyone else in the developed world is only independent to the extent that we live within a lovely bubble of safety and prosperity.&lt;br /&gt;
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There&amp;#039;s a group of people who keep that system running so you can bring up children without a man and so that we&amp;#039;re all nice and safe. Almost all of those people are men.&lt;br /&gt;
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A lot of men were actually just fine with this arrangement until misandry started to reach extreme levels. Now we have a system largely supported by men which turns its resources against men. Unless this changes, and soon, we&amp;#039;re all in trouble.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Brockway</name></author>
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