Casual misandry - Revision history

Robert Brockway at 13:16, 2 February 2026

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	=== Conclusions ===

	Statements like these are common in ~~western~~ media. Many men and women believe these myths about men. It is reasonable to expect that constant denigration of men and masculinity will have a negative effect on men and boys. Of particular concern are boys being born in to a world where they are taught from a young age that there is something fundamentally wrong with being male. If we do not stop spreading these lies and half-truths about men and boys we will continue to see young men and boys disengaging from society in ever increasing numbers. If this trend continues we will all be the poorer for it.		Statements like these are common in the [[mainstream media]]. Many men and women believe these myths about men. It is reasonable to expect that constant denigration of men and masculinity will have a negative effect on men and boys. Of particular concern are boys being born in to a world where they are taught from a young age that there is something fundamentally wrong with being male. If we do not stop spreading these lies and half-truths about men and boys we will continue to see young men and boys disengaging from society in ever increasing numbers. If this trend continues we will all be the poorer for it.

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Men are lazy

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	It is becoming increasingly common to accuse men of being lazy.<ref>https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/what-is-quiet-quitting-men-career-b2156379.html</ref><ref>https://archive.is/Vp0l7</ref><ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/05/07/study-men-are-lazy-to-their-core/</ref><ref>https://archive.is/toQQl</ref>

	This is clearly not the case when we see that:

	* Men take significantly less sick leave than women
	* Men work longer hours than women
	* Men work full-time for more years than women
	* Men choose jobs with longer commutes over those they prefer, for higher pay
	* Men choose job they would like less over those they prefer for higher pay
	* [[Invisible men]] provide essential services for society by doing dirty, difficult and dangerous jobs

	=== Conclusions ===		=== Conclusions ===

Robert Brockway at 13:15, 2 February 2026

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	{{~~Work~~}}		{{Working}}

	===Men are lazy ===		===Men are lazy ===

Robert Brockway at 13:14, 2 February 2026

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	From time to time it is asserted that women are just better workers than men. For examples, this article in the ''Daily Mail'':

	''Women DO work harder than men: How female employees are less prone to distraction and more likely to get a job done''<ref>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2285378/Women-DO-work-harder-men-How-female-employees-prone-distraction-likely-job-done.html</ref> This alleged study monitored male and female employees for 10 minutes per person and failed to control for various factors, such as the men and women actually performing different jobs or even establishing what constituted work. Someone reading a technical article would appear to not be working in the above study.

	In contrast at least some hard data suggests men are slightly more productive workers, at least in blue collar roles.<ref> http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/workingpapers/139-06.pdf</ref>
	In practice the difference is negligible in most positions. There is a notable exception however, in which female scientists had significantly lower scientific publication rates than male scientists.

	===Men are lazy ===		===Men are lazy ===

Robert Brockway at 13:12, 2 February 2026

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	=== Men speaking condescendingly to women (Mansplaining) ===		=== Men speaking condescendingly to women (Mansplaining) ===

			{{Mansplaining}}
	[[Mansplaining]] is the notion that men routinely speak to women in a condescending manner and in particular do so far more often than they would do so to men. This term is now widely used by women. Stories of men engaging in this behaviour are widely available online.<ref>http://mansplained.tumblr.com/</ref>

	One of the principal problems with the concept of mansplaining is that it presumes that the men talking in a condescending manner only do this to women. They may simply be arrogant individuals who act this way towards many people, regardless of gender. Because of the inherent assumption about the gender bias of someone who is allegedly mansplaining, the concept is ''unflasifiable''. It is not possible to prove that these men would never act that way towards other men.

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Robert Brockway at 13:11, 2 February 2026

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	=== Men don't ask for directions ===		=== Men don't ask for directions ===

			{{Directions}}
	It is often claimed that men do not ask for directions.<ref>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2014/03/23/why-men-dont-ask-for-directions/</ref> Despite how widely repeated this claim is there is very little evidence to suggest it is actually true.

	=== Men speaking condescendingly to women (Mansplaining) ===		=== Men speaking condescendingly to women (Mansplaining) ===

Robert Brockway at 13:11, 2 February 2026

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	=== Men are immature, child-like and emotionally stunted ===		=== Men are immature, child-like and emotionally stunted ===

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	Today it is very common for opinion pieces and even mainstream news articles to claim that men are child-like or are not growing up.<ref>http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/406657/Oh-grow-up-Men-act-like-children-until-they-are-43</ref><ref>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/10/03/babyman%E2%80%A6-is-this-your-guy/</ref><ref>
	http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/sex-relationships/relationships/men-mature-much-later-women-1944573</ref>

	This criticism is often levelled at men who are choosing to remain single throughout their lives. The argument presumes that because these men are not following a traditional path of attempting to form a permanent relationship and choosing to have children that they are immature. This is an inherent value judgement. People who recognise that they do not want to be parents (or are not cut out to be parents) and make sure this doesn't happen may well be more mature and responsible than people who plunge in to relationships and parenthood without having considered the long term ramifications of these choices.

	CNN, like others, argues that women are better at dealing with emotional problems than men.<ref>http://edition.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/11/15/tf.emotional.men/</ref> It would be more accurate to say that men and women tend to deal with emotional problems in different ways and claiming one method is better than the other is making a value judgement.

	Statements like the one below, often couched in humour, suggest men are more simple than women:

	''Men have two emotions, hungry and horny. If you see him without an erection, make him a sandwich.''<ref>http://imgur.com/KyYkS1n</ref>

	This is perhaps the most insulting and dehumanising of all of these claims.

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Robert Brockway at 13:10, 2 February 2026

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	=== Men complain unduly when sick (Manflu) ===		=== Men complain unduly when sick (Manflu) ===

			{{Manflu}}
	Today many people apparently believe that when ill with a minor virus men complain more and remain sick for longer. This is commonly known as '''manflu'''. Some companies even feel it is acceptable to refer to a man as a man-child while sick.<ref>http://imgur.com/Z5bJnlR</ref>

	'''manflu.info tells us:'''

	''Man Flu is a crippling and debilitating disorder indiscriminately striking down male members of the human species without warning. The illness is often referred to pejoratively by female members of the species who are in fact immune from the illness as man flu is now known to exclusively attack the XY chromosome carrier. If Man Flu is kind enough not to kill the infected party it will definitely leave him weak, sick, hurting everywhere and in dire need of TLC.''<ref>http://manflu.info/index.htm</ref>

	While this site is obviously intended as satire the sad truth is that a lot of people, especially women, believe this to be true despite solid evidence to the contrary.

	'''mamamia.com.au states:'''

	''What’s that? That sounds a lot like regular flu you say? Well spotted and correct! Man flu presents exactly the same as it does with regular flu except for an added degree of difficulty commonly known as “chronic exaggeration”. In fact, Man Flu, according to absolutely no credible source whatsoever is:''

	''13 times worse than normal flu''

	''More unbearable than childbirth''

	''Easily recognisable when the patient continues to tell you he really wants to go into work but is too selfless to risk spreading his awful condition amongst his work colleagues.''

	''Only cured by moaning. A lot of moaning.''<ref>http://www.mamamia.com.au/health-wellbeing/medibank-man-flu/</ref>

	In reality, while the exact rates vary from country to country, women take more sick leave from work than men.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/412320.stm</ref>
	<ref>http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/2f762f95845417aeca25706c00834efa/2db55ccbd87f6686ca2570ec0073e386!OpenDocument</ref>
	While some may suspect that women are taking additional sick leave to care for children, childless women take more sick leave than childless men.
	<ref>http://www.statschat.org.nz/2011/07/01/do-women-really-take-more-sick-leave/</ref> One study reported that women take 50-70% more sick leave than men performing the same work in Norway.<ref>http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/workingpapers/139-06.pdf</ref>

	=== Men are immature, child-like and emotionally stunted ===		=== Men are immature, child-like and emotionally stunted ===

Robert Brockway at 13:08, 2 February 2026

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	Another widespread but baseless claim often made today is that men are linear thinkers while women are not. Variations on this idea include that men are more rigid thinkers, that women are more capable of thinking ''outside of the box'' or that the male brain is more specialised.<ref>http://www.netnanny.com/learn_center/article/165/</ref>

	These claims include the notion that men are unable to alter their thought processes to match a changing situation<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9548536/Men-refuse-to-ask-for-directions-out-of-blind-panic.html</ref> and are less able to think of novel solutions to problems.

	These claims tend to ignore the fact that men are responsible for the overwhelming majority of innovation, invention and problem solving, today and throughout [[history]] and form the vast majority of people who work in unstructured work environents (eg, police) or who solve problems for a living (eg, engineers). Women tend to choose [[occupations]] where the tasks are more structured and clearly defined (as well as generally being cleaner and safer).

	Claims relating to women thinking ''outside of the box'' are in fact nonsensical. One can only think outside of the box relative to those thinking inside of the box. As such, if we consider that men and women in general think differently then each group will tend to think outside of the box relative to the other. This is in fact a corollary to the notion that [[diversity]] in opinions on solving a problem can lead to better outcomes.

	Claims about male thinking usually go on to claim that women will lead in the 21st century and that this is reflected in increasing female participation in the labour force.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/f/fisher-first.html</ref> Interestingly while female labour participation rates increased from the 1970s they peaked around 2000 and have been steadily declining since that time <ref>http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/labor-force-projections-to-2022-the-labor-force-participation-rate-continues-to-fall.htm</ref>

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	=== Men think about sex every few seconds ===		=== Men think about sex every few seconds ===

			{{Thinking Sex}}
	This claim varies in frequency and is of uncertain origin. Some reports state that men think about sex as often as every seven seconds. This claim has been throughly debunked and is without merit.<ref>http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/thinksex.asp</ref>

	=== Men have fragile egos ===		=== Men have fragile egos ===

Robert Brockway at 13:07, 2 February 2026

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			{{Thinking}}

	Another widespread but baseless claim often made today is that men are linear thinkers while women are not. Variations on this idea include that men are more rigid thinkers, that women are more capable of thinking ''outside of the box'' or that the male brain is more specialised.<ref>http://www.netnanny.com/learn_center/article/165/</ref>		Another widespread but baseless claim often made today is that men are linear thinkers while women are not. Variations on this idea include that men are more rigid thinkers, that women are more capable of thinking ''outside of the box'' or that the male brain is more specialised.<ref>http://www.netnanny.com/learn_center/article/165/</ref>