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<div>The most compelling case against [[feminism]] comes from feminism itself. Here is a list of quotes from influential members throughout the history of the feminist movement.<br />
<br />
== [[Andrea Dworkin]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Barbara Jordan]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Caitlin Moran]] ==<br />
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<blockquote>Because if I had one piece of advice for young girls, and women, it would be this: girls, don’t read any books by men. Don’t read them. Stay away from them. Or, at least, don’t read them until you’re older, and fully-formed, and battle-ready, and are able to counter someone being rude to you, in conversation, not with silent embarrassment, or internalised, mute fury, but a calm, “Fuck you very much, and goodbye.”<br />
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Because if there’s one thing that has made me, perhaps, happier in myself, and more confident about writing the truth, and less apt to run myself down for my appearance, weight, loudness and unusualness than many, many other women, it’s that I never read books by men when I was younger.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170312204034/https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/features/2017/mar/caitlin-moran-how-books-made-me-a-feminist/#</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Catherine Comins]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Catherine MacKinnon]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[David Angier]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Germain Greer]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Women have very little idea of how much men hate them." The Female Eunich.<br />
<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/26/germaine-greer-female-eunuch-feminists-influence</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Irina Dunn]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
“A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” 1970. This phrase is often incorrectly attributed to [[Gloria Steinem]] who popularised it. Similar phrases had currency in English before 1970 however.<ref>http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/414150.html</ref><br />
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== [[Jodie Foster]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo." Quoted in The New York Times Magazine<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Julie Bindel]] ==<br />
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In response to the question ''will heterosexuality survive women’s liberation?'' Bindel stated:<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"It won’t, not unless men get their act together, have their power taken from them and behave themselves. I mean, I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn’t be able to fight – we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a library book, and then bring them back.<br />
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And I am sick of hearing from individual women that their men are all right. Those men have been shored up by the advantages of patriarchy and they are complacent, they are not stopping other men from being shit. <br />
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I would love to see a women’s liberation that results in women turning away from men and saying: 'when you come back as human beings, then we might look again.'"<ref>http://www.radfemcollective.org/news/2015/9/7/an-interview-with-julie-bindel</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Linda Gordon]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Mary Daly]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Marilyn French]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Mary Koss]] ==<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If you look at this group of men who identify themselves as rape victims, as raped by women, you’ll find that their shame is not similar to women, their level of injury is not similar to women, and their penetration experience is not similar to what women are reporting."<ref>https://soundcloud.com/889-wers/male-rape?in=889-wers/sets/no-mans-land</ref><br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman."<ref>http://boysmeneducation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Koss-1993-Detecting-the-Scope-of-Rape-a-review-of-prevalence-research-methods-see-p.-206-last-paragraph.pdf</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Maureen Dowd]] ==<br />
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Maureen Dowd is a columnist working for the New York Times. Dowd was recently quoted as saying:<br />
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<blockquote><br />
So now that women don’t need men to reproduce and refinance, the question is, will we keep you around? And the answer is, ‘You know we need you in the way we need ice cream — you’ll be more ornamental.’<br />
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== [[Robin Morgan]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." Then Editor of Ms. Magazine.<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Sally Miller Gearhart]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." The Future – If There Is One – Is Female<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Sharon Stone]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
<ref>https://www.azquotes.com/quote/578604</ref><br />
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== [[Sheila Cronin]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." While lhe leader of the feminist organization the [[National Organisation for Women]].<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Sheila Jeffrys]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"When a woman reaches ****** with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Susan Brownmiller]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear." Against Our Will p.6<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Susan Griffin]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference." Rape: The All-American Crime<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Ti-Grace Atkinson]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== [[Treena Shapiro]] ==<br />
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<blockquote><br />
"I do want to be able to explain to a 9-year-old boy in terms he will understand why I think it’s OK for girls to wear shirts that revel in their superiority over boys."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
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== External Links ==<br />
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*[http://antimisandry.com/feminist-misandry/feminist-quotes-20106.html Antimisandry.com]<br />
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/lgb.asp Leftwing Gender Bigots]<br />
*[https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/ Thought Catalog]<br />
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== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Featured Articles]]<br />
[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Quotes]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7102Reddit2020-03-01T06:02:26Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. As of July 2018 there were 138,000 active subreddits and 1.2 million total subreddits.<ref>http://redditmetrics.com/history</ref> The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it, to neutral or indifferent.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeminismStopsWhen r/FeminismStopsWhen]: A subreddit that calls out examples of feminism being opposed to equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FragileMaleRedditor r/FragileMaleRedditor]: A hateful subreddit for making fun of any criticism of feminism that a man has.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MenKampf r/MenKampf]: A subreddit which takes genuine feminist quotes and replaces words such as "men" and "males" with the names of groups that are less socially acceptable to discriminate against, most frequently "Jews" and "blacks". This highlights the hate and misandry which is rampant in feminist rhetoric.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.<br />
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==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7054Reddit2020-02-28T04:03:51Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. As of July 2018 there were 138,000 active subreddits and 1.2 million total subreddits.<ref>http://redditmetrics.com/history</ref> The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it, to neutral or indifferent.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeminismStopsWhen r/FeminismStopsWhen]: A subreddit that calls out examples of feminism being opposed to equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MenKampf r/MenKampf]: A subreddit which takes genuine feminist quotes and replaces words such as "men" and "males" with the names of groups that are less socially acceptable to discriminate against, most frequently "Jews" and "blacks". This highlights the hate and misandry which is rampant in feminist rhetoric.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.<br />
<br />
==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Third_wave_feminism&diff=7053Third wave feminism2020-02-28T02:26:15Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: /* Equality */</p>
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<div>Modern feminism is genernally known as '''third wave feminism''' although some feminists are now talking about '''post-third wave''' or '''fourth wave''' feminism. Modern feminists generally believe in [[rape culture]], overwhelming levels of [[street harassment]] and the [[patriarchy]].<br />
<br />
== Equality ==<br />
<br />
There are many people in the wider community who profess to support gender equality and openly call themselves feminists. It is reasonable to conclude that the majority of people who make this claim are honest in their belief. The evidence is that most feminists who identify feminism with gender equality are not part of organised feminism. They profess feminism but are typically not involved in any feminist organisations, do not attend feminist meetings, do not read feminist books any more (if they ever did) and rarely even read feminist web sites. In a sense they are islands of feminism disconnected from the mainstream of the movement.<br />
<br />
Many of those people seem oblivious to radical feminism and how entrenched it is in modern academia. It is organised feminism, feminism in academia, that young women in gender studies and women's studies courses listen to and it is feminism in academia that has the ear of the modern political establishment.<br />
<br />
Feminism is not a static philosophy and people who identify as feminists ought to remain abreast of modern feminist ideology. Institutional feminists are increasingly rejecting the notion that men can be feminists, instead referring to them as ''feminist allies''.<br />
<br />
Radical feminism may not be the only form of feminism but the alternatives today are largely inactive, and therefore largely irrelevant.<br />
<br />
Feminists all too often insistent that to reject feminism is to reject gender equality. This would only be true if feminism were the only manner in which gender equality could be addressed. Even if we accept that feminists believe in gender equality, it does not follow that feminism has a monopoly on gender equality. Feminism is an ideology. As such alternative view points (those of other ideologies, or a lack of ideology) must be possible. Being an ideology feminism cannot be the sole manner in which gender equality can be viewed. The notion that one cannot believe in equality without being a feminist is essentially equivalent to a claim that one cannot believe in a God without identifying as a Christian.<br />
<br />
== Violence ==<br />
<br />
Increasingly organised groups of feminists are resorting to violence to push their agenda. Particularly egregious examples have occured in South America<ref>http://www.thepcmdgazette.com/news/see-what-a-mob-of-tolerant-feminists-did-to-these-christians/</ref>, and various locations in Canada including Toronto<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0</ref>, Kingston and Ottawa. In engaging in this disruptive and at times threatening behaviour feminists are attempting to silence opposition rather than endeavouring to respond with cogent arguments.<br />
<br />
== Embracing menstruation ==<br />
<br />
Feminists spend a lot of time talking about their vaginas (often referring to their vulvas) and [[menstrual blood]]. In recent years we've seen feminists paint and apply ''facials'' with their menstrual blood.<ref>https://www.buzzfeed.com/chantelhouston/we-painted-in-our-period-blood-to-break-the-stigma-that</ref><ref>https://www.newidea.com.au/woman-has-menstrual-blood-facial-and-says-she-feels-better-than-ever</ref> We have also seen them bake bread with their vaginal yeast.<ref>https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a49894/yeast-infection-sourdough-bread/</ref><br />
<br />
== Key Traits ==<br />
<br />
Feminism has the following key traits:<br />
<br />
* Feminism always seeks to maximise women's choices<br />
* Feminism always seeks to minimise women's responsibilities<br />
* Feminism always seeks to control the narrative<br />
* Feminism adds subjective value judgements to a topic and then claims female superiority<br />
* Feminism rejects any inate differences between men and women beyond morphological differences<br />
* Feminism is inherently internally inconsistent<br />
* Feminism is run by radical feminists<br />
* Equity feminists are inactive feminists<br />
* Despite seeking to maximise women's choices, feminists will object if they think woman have made the wrong choices<br />
* Feminists will not accept or acknowledge that women can ever benefit from interacting with men<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
<br />
=== Feminist Sites ===<br />
<br />
The best way to argue against feminism is to quote feminists themselves. Below is a selection of mainstream feminist sites for reference.<br />
<br />
*[http://feministphilosophers.wordpress.com Feminist Philosophers]<br />
*[http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/ Finally Feminism 101]<br />
*[http://www.feministstudies.org/home.html Feminist Studies Journal]<br />
*[https://everydayfeminism.com/ Everyday Feminism]<br />
*[http://londonfeministnetwork.org.uk/ London Feminist Network]<br />
<br />
=== Other Sites ===<br />
<br />
*[https://ipa.org.au/ipa-today/radical-feminism-has-no-place-in-psychology Institute of Public Affairs argues against feminist ideology in psychology]<br />
*[http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/22w99g/feminism_is_a_popular_institution_for_which_all/ Feminism the Institution]<br />
*[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaminah-khan/10-ways-to-be-a-better-male-feminist_b_4227969.html A Guide for Male Feminists]<br />
*[http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/the-ten-most-common-feminist-myths/ The ten most common feminist myths]<br />
*[http://www.sciencevsfeminism.com/resources/intimate-partner-violence-part-2-patriarchal-dominance-theory/ Science vs Feminism]<br />
*[https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200908/why-modern-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-and-evil?fb_action_ids=887284244667679&fb_action_types=og.shares Psychology Today]<br />
*[https://areomagazine.com/2016/12/29/why-i-no-longer-identify-as-a-feminist Why I No Longer Identify as a feminist]<br />
*[https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/feminism-has-become-obsessed-with-victimhood-1.3418483 Feminism has become obsessed with victimhood]<br />
*[https://criticathink.wordpress.com/2017/12/21/three-myths-of-victim-feminism/ Three myths of victim feminism]<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<br />
[[Category: Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Featured Articles]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Men%27s_rights_movement&diff=7052Men's rights movement2020-02-28T02:23:19Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>The men's rights movement (MRM) seeks to to engage in reasoned peaceful advocacy while aiming to eliminate [[gynocentrism]] and [[male disposability]]. The MRM want to resolve certain issues facing men and boys and achieve equality of opportunity for all. The MRM opposes the enforcement of traditional gender roles, as well as the perspective to gender relations presented by most forms of [[feminism]].. Someone who participates in the MRM is called an [[MRA]].<br />
<br />
The MRM often finds itself allied with other groups such as [[intactivists]]. The MRM seeks to address a wide variety of issues facing men and boys while activists within these other movements are often focused on a small number of issues. MRAs argue that issues facing men and boys are often tied together. For example, the fact that many societies tolerate [[male genital mutilation]] while rejecting [[female genital mutilation]] is in fact a symptom of the broader problem of male disposability as men are regarded as having less right to their own life and body than women.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Featured Articles]]<br />
[[Category:Glossary]]<br />
[[Category:Men's Rights]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Feminist_quotes&diff=7038Feminist quotes2020-02-27T03:55:22Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: /* Mary Koss */</p>
<hr />
<div>== [[Andrea Dworkin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Barbara Jordan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Caitlin Moran]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Because if I had one piece of advice for young girls, and women, it would be this: girls, don’t read any books by men. Don’t read them. Stay away from them. Or, at least, don’t read them until you’re older, and fully-formed, and battle-ready, and are able to counter someone being rude to you, in conversation, not with silent embarrassment, or internalised, mute fury, but a calm, “Fuck you very much, and goodbye.”<br />
<br />
Because if there’s one thing that has made me, perhaps, happier in myself, and more confident about writing the truth, and less apt to run myself down for my appearance, weight, loudness and unusualness than many, many other women, it’s that I never read books by men when I was younger.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170312204034/https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/features/2017/mar/caitlin-moran-how-books-made-me-a-feminist/#</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine Comins]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine MacKinnon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[David Angier]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Germain Greer]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Women have very little idea of how much men hate them." The Female Eunich.<br />
<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/26/germaine-greer-female-eunuch-feminists-influence</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Irina Dunn]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
“A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” 1970. This phrase is often incorrectly attributed to [[Gloria Steinem]] who popularised it. Similar phrases had currency in English before 1970 however.<ref>http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/414150.html</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Jodie Foster]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo." Quoted in The New York Times Magazine<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Julie Bindel]] ==<br />
<br />
In response to the question ''will heterosexuality survive women’s liberation?'' Bindel stated:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
It won’t, not unless men get their act together, have their power taken from them and behave themselves. I mean, I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn’t be able to fight – we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a library book, and then bring them back.<br />
<br />
And I am sick of hearing from individual women that their men are all right. Those men have been shored up by the advantages of patriarchy and they are complacent, they are not stopping other men from being shit. <br />
<br />
I would love to see a women’s liberation that results in women turning away from men and saying: “when you come back as human beings, then we might look again.”<ref>http://www.radfemcollective.org/news/2015/9/7/an-interview-with-julie-bindel</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Linda Gordon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Mary Daly]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Marilyn French]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Mary Koss]] ==<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If you look at this group of men who identify themselves as rape victims, as raped by women, you’ll find that their shame is not similar to women, their level of injury is not similar to women, and their penetration experience is not similar to what women are reporting."<ref>https://soundcloud.com/889-wers/male-rape?in=889-wers/sets/no-mans-land</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman."<ref>http://boysmeneducation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Koss-1993-Detecting-the-Scope-of-Rape-a-review-of-prevalence-research-methods-see-p.-206-last-paragraph.pdf</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Maureen Dowd]] ==<br />
<br />
Maureen Dowd is a columnist working for the New York Times. Dowd was recently quoted as saying:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
So now that women don’t need men to reproduce and refinance, the question is, will we keep you around? And the answer is, ‘You know we need you in the way we need ice cream — you’ll be more ornamental.’<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Robin Morgan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." Then Editor of Ms. Magazine.<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sally Miller Gearhart]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." The Future – If There Is One – Is Female<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sharon Stone]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
<ref>https://www.azquotes.com/quote/578604</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Cronin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." While lhe leader of the feminist organization the [[National Organisation for Women]].<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Jeffrys]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"When a woman reaches ****** with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Brownmiller]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear." Against Our Will p.6<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Griffin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference." Rape: The All-American Crime<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Ti-Grace Atkinson]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Treena Shapiro]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I do want to be able to explain to a 9-year-old boy in terms he will understand why I think it’s OK for girls to wear shirts that revel in their superiority over boys."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
<br />
*[http://antimisandry.com/feminist-misandry/feminist-quotes-20106.html Antimisandry.com]<br />
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/lgb.asp Leftwing Gender Bigots]<br />
*[https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/ Thought Catalog]<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<br />
[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Quotes]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Feminist_quotes&diff=7035Feminist quotes2020-02-27T03:43:49Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>== [[Andrea Dworkin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Barbara Jordan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Caitlin Moran]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Because if I had one piece of advice for young girls, and women, it would be this: girls, don’t read any books by men. Don’t read them. Stay away from them. Or, at least, don’t read them until you’re older, and fully-formed, and battle-ready, and are able to counter someone being rude to you, in conversation, not with silent embarrassment, or internalised, mute fury, but a calm, “Fuck you very much, and goodbye.”<br />
<br />
Because if there’s one thing that has made me, perhaps, happier in myself, and more confident about writing the truth, and less apt to run myself down for my appearance, weight, loudness and unusualness than many, many other women, it’s that I never read books by men when I was younger.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170312204034/https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/features/2017/mar/caitlin-moran-how-books-made-me-a-feminist/#</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine Comins]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine MacKinnon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[David Angier]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Germain Greer]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Women have very little idea of how much men hate them." The Female Eunich.<br />
<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/26/germaine-greer-female-eunuch-feminists-influence</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Irina Dunn]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
“A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” 1970. This phrase is often incorrectly attributed to [[Gloria Steinem]] who popularised it. Similar phrases had currency in English before 1970 however.<ref>http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/414150.html</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Jodie Foster]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo." Quoted in The New York Times Magazine<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Julie Bindel]] ==<br />
<br />
In response to the question ''will heterosexuality survive women’s liberation?'' Bindel stated:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
It won’t, not unless men get their act together, have their power taken from them and behave themselves. I mean, I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn’t be able to fight – we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a library book, and then bring them back.<br />
<br />
And I am sick of hearing from individual women that their men are all right. Those men have been shored up by the advantages of patriarchy and they are complacent, they are not stopping other men from being shit. <br />
<br />
I would love to see a women’s liberation that results in women turning away from men and saying: “when you come back as human beings, then we might look again.”<ref>http://www.radfemcollective.org/news/2015/9/7/an-interview-with-julie-bindel</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Linda Gordon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Mary Daly]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Marilyn French]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Mary Koss]] ==<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If you look at this group of men who identify themselves as rape victims, as raped by women, you’ll find that their shame is not similar to women, their level of injury is not similar to women, and their penetration experience is not similar to what women are reporting."<ref>https://soundcloud.com/889-wers/male-rape?in=889-wers/sets/no-mans-land</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Maureen Dowd]] ==<br />
<br />
Maureen Dowd is a columnist working for the New York Times. Dowd was recently quoted as saying:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
So now that women don’t need men to reproduce and refinance, the question is, will we keep you around? And the answer is, ‘You know we need you in the way we need ice cream — you’ll be more ornamental.’<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Robin Morgan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." Then Editor of Ms. Magazine.<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sally Miller Gearhart]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." The Future – If There Is One – Is Female<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sharon Stone]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
<ref>https://www.azquotes.com/quote/578604</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Cronin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." While lhe leader of the feminist organization the [[National Organisation for Women]].<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Jeffrys]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"When a woman reaches ****** with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Brownmiller]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear." Against Our Will p.6<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Griffin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference." Rape: The All-American Crime<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Ti-Grace Atkinson]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Treena Shapiro]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I do want to be able to explain to a 9-year-old boy in terms he will understand why I think it’s OK for girls to wear shirts that revel in their superiority over boys."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
<br />
*[http://antimisandry.com/feminist-misandry/feminist-quotes-20106.html Antimisandry.com]<br />
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/lgb.asp Leftwing Gender Bigots]<br />
*[https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/ Thought Catalog]<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<br />
[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Quotes]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Feminist_quotes&diff=7034Feminist quotes2020-02-27T03:43:30Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>== [[Andrea Dworkin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Barbara Jordan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Caitlin Moran]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Because if I had one piece of advice for young girls, and women, it would be this: girls, don’t read any books by men. Don’t read them. Stay away from them. Or, at least, don’t read them until you’re older, and fully-formed, and battle-ready, and are able to counter someone being rude to you, in conversation, not with silent embarrassment, or internalised, mute fury, but a calm, “Fuck you very much, and goodbye.”<br />
<br />
Because if there’s one thing that has made me, perhaps, happier in myself, and more confident about writing the truth, and less apt to run myself down for my appearance, weight, loudness and unusualness than many, many other women, it’s that I never read books by men when I was younger.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170312204034/https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/features/2017/mar/caitlin-moran-how-books-made-me-a-feminist/#</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine Comins]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine MacKinnon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[David Angier]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Germain Greer]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Women have very little idea of how much men hate them." The Female Eunich.<br />
<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/26/germaine-greer-female-eunuch-feminists-influence</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Irina Dunn]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
“A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” 1970. This phrase is often incorrectly attributed to [[Gloria Steinem]] who popularised it. Similar phrases had currency in English before 1970 however.<ref>http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/414150.html</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Jodie Foster]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo." Quoted in The New York Times Magazine<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Julie Bindel]] ==<br />
<br />
In response to the question ''will heterosexuality survive women’s liberation?'' Bindel stated:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
It won’t, not unless men get their act together, have their power taken from them and behave themselves. I mean, I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn’t be able to fight – we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a library book, and then bring them back.<br />
<br />
And I am sick of hearing from individual women that their men are all right. Those men have been shored up by the advantages of patriarchy and they are complacent, they are not stopping other men from being shit. <br />
<br />
I would love to see a women’s liberation that results in women turning away from men and saying: “when you come back as human beings, then we might look again.”<ref>http://www.radfemcollective.org/news/2015/9/7/an-interview-with-julie-bindel</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Linda Gordon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Mary Daly]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Marilyn French]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
== [[Mary Koss]] ==<br />
"If you look at this group of men who identify themselves as rape victims, as raped by women, you’ll find that their shame is not similar to women, their level of injury is not similar to women, and their penetration experience is not similar to what women are reporting."<ref>https://soundcloud.com/889-wers/male-rape?in=889-wers/sets/no-mans-land</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Maureen Dowd]] ==<br />
<br />
Maureen Dowd is a columnist working for the New York Times. Dowd was recently quoted as saying:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
So now that women don’t need men to reproduce and refinance, the question is, will we keep you around? And the answer is, ‘You know we need you in the way we need ice cream — you’ll be more ornamental.’<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Robin Morgan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." Then Editor of Ms. Magazine.<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sally Miller Gearhart]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." The Future – If There Is One – Is Female<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sharon Stone]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
<ref>https://www.azquotes.com/quote/578604</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Cronin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." While lhe leader of the feminist organization the [[National Organisation for Women]].<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Jeffrys]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"When a woman reaches ****** with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Brownmiller]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear." Against Our Will p.6<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Griffin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference." Rape: The All-American Crime<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Ti-Grace Atkinson]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Treena Shapiro]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I do want to be able to explain to a 9-year-old boy in terms he will understand why I think it’s OK for girls to wear shirts that revel in their superiority over boys."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
<br />
*[http://antimisandry.com/feminist-misandry/feminist-quotes-20106.html Antimisandry.com]<br />
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/lgb.asp Leftwing Gender Bigots]<br />
*[https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/ Thought Catalog]<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<br />
[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Quotes]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Feminist_quotes&diff=7033Feminist quotes2020-02-27T03:42:53Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>== [[Andrea Dworkin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Barbara Jordan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Caitlin Moran]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Because if I had one piece of advice for young girls, and women, it would be this: girls, don’t read any books by men. Don’t read them. Stay away from them. Or, at least, don’t read them until you’re older, and fully-formed, and battle-ready, and are able to counter someone being rude to you, in conversation, not with silent embarrassment, or internalised, mute fury, but a calm, “Fuck you very much, and goodbye.”<br />
<br />
Because if there’s one thing that has made me, perhaps, happier in myself, and more confident about writing the truth, and less apt to run myself down for my appearance, weight, loudness and unusualness than many, many other women, it’s that I never read books by men when I was younger.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20170312204034/https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/features/2017/mar/caitlin-moran-how-books-made-me-a-feminist/#</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine Comins]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Catherine MacKinnon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[David Angier]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Germain Greer]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Women have very little idea of how much men hate them." The Female Eunich.<br />
<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/26/germaine-greer-female-eunuch-feminists-influence</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Irina Dunn]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
“A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” 1970. This phrase is often incorrectly attributed to [[Gloria Steinem]] who popularised it. Similar phrases had currency in English before 1970 however.<ref>http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/414150.html</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Jodie Foster]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Ninety-five percent of women’s experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive… women didn’t go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo." Quoted in The New York Times Magazine<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Julie Bindel]] ==<br />
<br />
In response to the question ''will heterosexuality survive women’s liberation?'' Bindel stated:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
It won’t, not unless men get their act together, have their power taken from them and behave themselves. I mean, I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn’t be able to fight – we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a library book, and then bring them back.<br />
<br />
And I am sick of hearing from individual women that their men are all right. Those men have been shored up by the advantages of patriarchy and they are complacent, they are not stopping other men from being shit. <br />
<br />
I would love to see a women’s liberation that results in women turning away from men and saying: “when you come back as human beings, then we might look again.”<ref>http://www.radfemcollective.org/news/2015/9/7/an-interview-with-julie-bindel</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Linda Gordon]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Mary Daly]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Marilyn French]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Mary Koss]] ==<br />
"If you look at this group of men who identify themselves as rape victims, as raped by women, you’ll find that their shame is not similar to women, their level of injury is not similar to women, and their penetration experience is not similar to what women are reporting."<ref>https://soundcloud.com/889-wers/male-rape?in=889-wers/sets/no-mans-land</ref><br />
<br />
== [[Maureen Dowd]] ==<br />
<br />
Maureen Dowd is a columnist working for the New York Times. Dowd was recently quoted as saying:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
So now that women don’t need men to reproduce and refinance, the question is, will we keep you around? And the answer is, ‘You know we need you in the way we need ice cream — you’ll be more ornamental.’<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Robin Morgan]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." Then Editor of Ms. Magazine.<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sally Miller Gearhart]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." The Future – If There Is One – Is Female<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sharon Stone]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
<ref>https://www.azquotes.com/quote/578604</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Cronin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." While lhe leader of the feminist organization the [[National Organisation for Women]].<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Sheila Jeffrys]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"When a woman reaches ****** with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Brownmiller]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear." Against Our Will p.6<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Susan Griffin]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference." Rape: The All-American Crime<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Ti-Grace Atkinson]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== [[Treena Shapiro]] ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
"I do want to be able to explain to a 9-year-old boy in terms he will understand why I think it’s OK for girls to wear shirts that revel in their superiority over boys."<br />
<ref>https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/</ref><br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
<br />
*[http://antimisandry.com/feminist-misandry/feminist-quotes-20106.html Antimisandry.com]<br />
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/lgb.asp Leftwing Gender Bigots]<br />
*[https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/ Thought Catalog]<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Quotes]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&diff=7032Creep shaming2020-02-27T03:33:33Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>'''Creep shaming''' is a term referring to the villainization of men who do not conform to social norms revolving around many women's (particularly feminists') expectations and comfort zones. It stems from the notion that a man's intents are irrelevant compared to how a woman perceives his actions. Hence, some feminists and even non-feminists claim that men who are socially awkward, who exhibit unusual conversation traits or speech patterns, or who show any interest in women who do not reciprocate the attraction are "creeps" and likely perpetrators of sex crimes. [[Men's Rights Activist]]s argue that this is an unfair demonization of male sexuality as well as men as a whole, and that it particularly targets men on the autism spectrum who may not have sufficient awareness to avoid behaving in unusual and thus "creepy" ways.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&diff=7031Creep shaming2020-02-27T03:33:06Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: Created page with "'''Creep shaming''' is a term referring to the villainization of men who do not conform to social norms revolving around many women's (particularly feminists') expectations an..."</p>
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<div>'''Creep shaming''' is a term referring to the villainization of men who do not conform to social norms revolving around many women's (particularly feminists') expectations and comfort zones. It stems from the notion that a man's intents are irrelevant compared to how a woman perceives his actions. Hence, some feminists and even non-feminists claim that men who are socially awkward, who exhibit unusual conversation traits or speech patterns, or who show any interest in women who do not reciprocate the attraction are "creeps" and likely perpetrators of sex crimes. [[Men's rights activist]]s argue that this is an unfair demonization of male sexuality as well as men as a whole, and that it particularly targets men on the autism spectrum who may not have sufficient awareness to avoid behaving in unusual and thus "creepy" ways.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7030Reddit2020-02-26T22:28:56Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. As of July 2018 there were 138,000 active subreddits and 1.2 million total subreddits.<ref>http://redditmetrics.com/history</ref> The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it, to neutral or indifferent.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MenKampf r/MenKampf]: A subreddit which takes genuine feminist quotes and replaces words such as "men" and "males" with the names of groups that are less socially acceptable to discriminate against, most frequently "Jews" and "blacks". This highlights the hate and misandry which is rampant in feminist rhetoric.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.<br />
<br />
==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7029Reddit2020-02-26T22:28:33Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. As of July 2018 there were 138,000 active subreddits and 1.2 million total subreddits.<ref>http://redditmetrics.com/history</ref> The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it, to neutral or indifferent.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MenKampf r/MenKampf]: A subreddit which takes genuine feminist quotes and replaces words such as "men" and "males" with the names of groups that are less socially acceptable to discriminate against, most frequently "Jews" and "blacks". This highlights the hate and misandry which is rampant in feminist rhetoric.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7028Reddit2020-02-26T22:23:18Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: /* Subreddits of note */</p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it, to neutral or indifferent.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MenKampf r/MenKampf]: A subreddit which takes genuine feminist quotes and replaces words such as "men" and "males" with the names of groups that are less socially acceptable to discriminate against, most frequently "Jews" and "blacks". This highlights the hate and misandry which is rampant in feminist rhetoric.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7027Reddit2020-02-26T22:22:58Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: /* Subreddits of note */</p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it, to neutral or indifferent.<br />
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== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MenKampf r/MensKampf]: A subreddit which takes genuine feminist quotes and replaces words such as "men" and "males" with the names of groups that are less socially acceptable to discriminate against, most frequently "Jews" and "blacks". This highlights the hate and misandry which is rampant in feminist rhetoric.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Men_are_trash&diff=7026Men are trash2020-02-26T22:20:37Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>"Men are trash", often written on social media as #MenAreTrash,<ref>https://twitter.com/search?q=%23menaretrash&src=typed_query</ref> is a [[feminist]] slogan and one of the most common examples of [[casual misandry]]. Feminists defend the phrase by claiming that it does not refer to all men, but highlights the problems that many men have which can stem from [[toxic masculinity]].<ref>https://www.theverge.com/interface/2019/10/3/20895119/facebook-men-are-trash-hate-speech-zuckerberg-leaked-audio</ref><ref>https://medium.com/humungus/should-we-stop-saying-men-are-trash-684ec1357440</ref><ref>https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2018/09/06/facebooks-double-standards-censorship/</ref> This is problematic in that it genders phenomena like partner violence and sexual assault, which have actually been recorded to be largely gender neutral in prevalence.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/</ref> Additionally, it implies blame on the majority of men, who do not contribute to so-called "trash" behavior, for the actions of the few men who do. Finally, even if one assumes the feminist conjectures of masculinity are true, the rhetoric of the English language generally asserts that a subject without a modifier is mutually all-encompassing. For instance, if someone was to say "My friends are tall", the average person does not envision some tall people and some short people, or even a few short people and a lot of tall people. Rather, the average person envisions a group of exclusively tall people. Similarly, "men are trash" implies a monolith of "trash" men, not a group of men in which only ''some'' are "trash".<br />
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Feminists suggest that decent men should understand that the phrase does not apply to them.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/dm519i/a_comic_i_made_to_break_it_down_for_stubborn_cis/</ref> However, this fails to take into account the struggles that some people have in deciphering language. In particular, it unfairly targets young boys, men with mental disabilities such as autism, and men whose native language is not English, all of which are groups that are less likely to pick up on lingual nuance (even if we pretend that it somehow does exist in the phrase "men are trash").<br />
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Finally, though this is probably somewhat unintentional, usage of the word "trash" can potentially fuel notions of [[male disposability]], since the word "trash" goes hand in hand with the idea that someone is expendable and inconsequential as an individual.<br />
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==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Men_are_trash&diff=7025Men are trash2020-02-26T22:06:34Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: Created page with ""Men are trash", often written on social media as #MenAreTrash,<ref>https://twitter.com/search?q=%23menaretrash&src=typed_query</ref> is a feminist slogan and one of the m..."</p>
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<div>"Men are trash", often written on social media as #MenAreTrash,<ref>https://twitter.com/search?q=%23menaretrash&src=typed_query</ref> is a [[feminist]] slogan and one of the most common examples of [[casual misandry]]. Feminists defend the phrase by claiming that does not refer to all men, but highlights the problems that many men have which can stem from [[toxic masculinity]].<ref>https://www.theverge.com/interface/2019/10/3/20895119/facebook-men-are-trash-hate-speech-zuckerberg-leaked-audio</ref><ref>https://medium.com/humungus/should-we-stop-saying-men-are-trash-684ec1357440</ref><ref>https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2018/09/06/facebooks-double-standards-censorship/</ref> This is problematic in that it genders phenomena like partner violence and sexual assault, which have actually been recorded to be largely gender neutral in prevalence.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/</ref> Additionally, it implies blame on the majority of men, who do not contribute to so-called "trash" behavior, for the actions of the few men who do.<br />
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Feminists suggest that decent men should understand that the phrase does not apply to them.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/dm519i/a_comic_i_made_to_break_it_down_for_stubborn_cis/</ref> However, this fails to take into account the struggles that some people have in deciphering language. In particular, it unfairly targets young boys, men with mental disabilities such as autism, and men whose native language is not English, all of which are groups that are less likely to pick up on lingual nuance (even if we pretend that it somehow does exist in the phrase "men are trash").<br />
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Finally, though this is probably somewhat unintentional, usage of the word "trash" can potentially fuel notions of [[male disposability]], since the word "trash" goes hand in hand with the idea that someone is expendable and inconsequential as an individual.<br />
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==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=The_future_is_female&diff=7024The future is female2020-02-26T21:21:01Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>The phrase ''The future is female'' is a common feminist slogan. The plain meaning of these words is that men will need to take a step back, apparently for alleged transgressions men committed against women in former times.<br />
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Feminists assert that this slogan actually means that the future will be egalitarian.<ref>https://madamegandhi.blog/the-future-is-female/</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/832ziu/for_those_who_truly_believe_in_equality_shouldnt/</ref> Most feminists are apparently unaware that the slogan originated among separatist feminists in the 1970s and was intended to be an expression of female supremacy.<ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/08/hillary-clinton-just-said-it-but-the-future-is-female-began-as-a-1970s-lesbian-separatist-slogan/?utm_term=.beb7de27982c</ref> The phrase has been attributed specifically to [[Sally Miller Gearhart]] as a result of her essay ''The Future--If there is one--Is Female''.<br />
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The phrase has been heavily critiqued by non-feminists and even casual feminists for its misandric implications.<ref>https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/02/future-is-female-problematic-feminist-slogan/</ref><ref>https://nypost.com/2018/12/06/gillibrands-own-sons-have-no-place-in-her-future/</ref><ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-men-dont-write-blogs/201703/memo-our-sons-and-grandsons-the-future-is-female?page=1</ref><br />
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== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Featured Articles]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7023Reddit2020-02-26T21:16:43Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it, to neutral or indifferent.<br />
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== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Misogyny&diff=7022Misogyny2020-02-26T21:14:44Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>''Misogyny'' is hatred towards, or prejudice against, women. Actual misogyny is a serious problem. However, [[feminist]]s often overuse the word to the point that it can refer to whatever it needs to in order to shut down a conversation. This can include critiquing feminism, critiquing any individual woman, or simply being male, among other things.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Street_harassment&diff=7021Street harassment2020-02-26T21:09:56Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>'''Street harassment''', also known as '''everyday sexism''' is the widespread claim among feminists that women are routinely harassed in public by men.<ref>https://twitter.com/EverydaySexism</ref> The founder of the site ''stopstreetharassment.org'' undertook two anonymous online surveys and found results that claim street harassment is very common, with 38% of women participating in these surveys claiming to have been harassed by way of ''honking and whistling'' within the last month.<ref>http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/resources/statistics/sshstudies/</ref><br />
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Surveys like this are deeply flawed:<br />
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* They rely on subjective self-reporting.<br />
* The surveys are on a site concerned with street harassment, meaning that people who have (or believe they have) experienced this are more likely to see the survey. This results in a selection bias.<br />
* They involve a selection bias in that people who see relevance in an online survey are far more likely to take part in the survey.<br />
* They can involve leading questions intended to elicit a particular answer.<br />
* Having been undertaken by someone who has a known bias, the research is immediately suspect.<br />
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There is no doubt that both men and women are occasionally harassed in public by strangers and that some of this constitutes sexual harassment. Proof that this is endemic however, as many feminists now claim, is lacking. The site ''stopstreetharassment'' lists only surveys, questionnaires and polls as evidence.<ref>http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/resources/statistics/statistics-academic-studies/</ref><br />
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Women who believe they are experiencing regular street harassament are encouraged to gather proof by recording this ''constant'' harassment. They should regularly record and upload the harassment. Software exists that will easily obscure faces if privacy is a concern.<br />
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When looking at Youtube it is easier to find videos of women imitating street harassment by men than it is to find street harassment by men itself.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=men+harassing+women+on+the+street</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=street+harassment</ref><br />
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Even the infamous '10 hours in New York' is 2 minutes long and not universally agreed to be full of harassment. Many of the alleged harassment instances have been interpreted as simply casual greetings.<ref>http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2014/1030/Catcall-video-reaction-Is-hello-in-the-street-sexual-harassment-video</ref> Additionally, it has been observed to disproportionately focus on impoverished areas, creating a misleading narrative of America as a whole.<ref>http://massappeal.com/does-this-street-harassment-video-really-represent-nyc/</ref><br />
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If street harassment is a problem then proof is needed. The onus of proof always remains with the person making the assertion. Cameras that can be fitted to clothing (often used by security guards and police) are readily available today.<br />
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== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Featured Articles]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=The_Absurdity_of_Patriarchy&diff=7020The Absurdity of Patriarchy2020-02-26T19:22:28Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>The notion of '''The Patriarchy''' espoused by feminists has gone from being a radical fringe view to being mainstream not only among feminists but the wider community. The definition of patriarchy used by feminists differs from that used by anthropologists, sociologists and other researchers as well as differing from the common dictionary definition. These two concepts are entirely distinct and should not be confused. Due to the significant differences in meaning that this term has, anyone using it should clearly define the term before making their argument. Feminists often refer to ''The Patriarchy''. This usage distinguishes it from non-feminist usage and was originally coined by the American feminist writer, Kate Millet.<ref>https://www.academia.edu/5488906/Patriarchy_Feminist_Theory_encyclopedia_essay_on_concept_of_patriarchy_</ref> MRAs are encouraged to refer to the feminist concept as ''The Patriarchy'', using a term coined by one of their own to distinguish it from the term as used within scientific circles. Feminism relies heavily on the confusion between these two definitions and MRAs shouldn't contribute to that confusion. MRAs and anti-feminists would be better served by making it clear that the feminist definition of The Patriarchy is entirely distinct from the similar term ''patriarchy''.<br />
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If the Men's Rights Movement could tear down belief in The Patriarchy it could make huge inroads in to getting the wider community to accept the issues facing men and boys.<br />
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Feminists differ in their understanding of The Patriarchy. Some believe it has always existed while others believe it appeared a few thousand years ago.<ref>http://www.midwifingdeath.com/musings/patriarchy_in_our_world.html</ref> Some even believe there was an [[ancient matriarchy]] that was defeated by warlike patriarchal societies.<ref>http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2742/earth-mother-has-there-ever-been-a-true-matriarchal-culture</ref> Belief in an ancient matriarchy is usually based on on the notion that ancient societies were unaware of the connection between sexual intercourse and pregnancy. The idea that ancient societies (particularly hunger-gatherers) were unaware of this apparently obvious fact first arose among 19th century European natural philosophers, although many feminists who espouse it are apparently unaware of its origins. Today anthropologists and sociologists consider the idea absurd. There has never been a human society that didn't know where babies come from.<br />
<br />
There is never-the-less general acceptance among feminists that The Patriarchy is based on the systematic oppression of women by men <ref>http://feminismandreligion.com/2013/02/18/patriarchy-as-an-integral-system-of-male-dominance-created-at-the-intersection-of-the-control-of-women-private-property-and-war-part-1-by-carol-p-christ/</ref> and is a constant of gender relations around the world.<br />
<br />
Feminists often tell us that they want to ''Destroy The Patriarchy'',<ref>https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/destroy-the-patriarchy</ref><ref>https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120129161208AAPRnyG</ref><ref>http://evilfeminist.tumblr.com/post/48289430757/what-men-can-do-to-destroy-the-patriarchy-without</ref> ''Dismantle The Patriarchy'',<ref>http://organizingchange.org/patriarchy-persists-can-change/</ref><ref>http://letterbyafeminist.blogspot.com.au/2009/10/patriarchy-101.html</ref><ref>https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130627185749AANM9Jo</ref> or ''Smash The Patriarchy''.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/style/carol-gilligan.html</ref><ref>https://yourdream.liveyourdream.org/2017/06/six-ways-to-smash-the-patriarchy/</ref><ref>https://www.scarymommy.com/raising-boys-smash-patriarchy/</ref><br />
Implicit in this desire are two important points:<br />
<br />
* The Patriarchy exists<br />
* If it does, that it can be destroyed<br />
<br />
So does The Patriarchy exist? If so, can it be destroyed?<br />
<br />
== Definitions ==<br />
<br />
=== Sample Feminist Definition ===<br />
<br />
The ''London Feminist Network'' defines Patriarchy as:<ref>http://londonfeministnetwork.org.uk/home/patriarchy</ref><br />
<br />
''Patriarchy is the term used to describe the society in which we live today, characterised by current and historic unequal power relations between women and men whereby women are systematically disadvantaged and oppressed. This takes place across almost every sphere of life but is particularly noticeable in women’s under-representation in key state institutions, in decision-making positions and in employment and industry. Male violence against women is also a key feature of patriarchy. Women in minority groups face multiple oppressions in this society, as race, class and sexuality intersect with sexism for example.''<br />
<br />
This is a fairly typical definition of The Patriarchy within mainstream feminism.<ref>http://sc2220.wikifoundry.com/page/PATRIARCHY</ref><ref>http://gem.greenwood.com/wse/wsePrint.jsp?id=id496</ref><br />
<br />
=== Dictionary Definition ===<br />
<br />
In contrast, ''dictionary.com'' defines patriarchy like this:<br />
<br />
''pa·tri·arch·y [pey-tree-ahr-kee] Show IPA noun, plural pa·tri·arch·ies.''<br />
<br />
# ''a form of social organization in which the father is the supreme authority in the family, clan, or tribe and descent is reckoned in the male line, with the children belonging to the father's clan or tribe.''<br />
# ''a society, community, or country based on this social organization.''<br />
<br />
The feminist notion of The Patriarchy is unfalsifiable.<br />
<br />
The Patriarchy, as defined by feminists, does not exist and never did exist. At best it is indicative of a very simplistic world view. At worst it is indicative of an ideological need to denigrate men and boys.<br />
<br />
A belief in The Patriarchy is used by feminists to justify their anti-male activities. If men have oppressed women through the use of violence for thousands of years, surely it is ok to respond in kind.<br />
<br />
Much of the criticism levelled at men by feminists is justified by a belief in The Patriarchy. Mainstream feminism posits that men have an intrinsic advantage in society merely for being men. They call this ''privilege'' and constantly entreat people to check it. This is a very binary view of the world, presuming that one gender has an intrinsic advantage over the other. It would be more accurate to say that both men and women have problems specific to their gender. Unfortunately feminists have shown a consistent trend of ignoring the problems facing men and boys, and much of this occurs because they believe in The Patriarchy.<br />
<br />
== Does The Patriarchy exist? ==<br />
<br />
Anyone believing in The Patriarchy should try to answer the following questions in concrete terms.<br />
<br />
=== When and where did it start? ===<br />
<br />
If The Patriarchy existed and exists, it must have started somewhere.<ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/20o6yv/how_can_i_convince_my_friend_that_horrible_acts/cg567wx</ref> Be specific in providing information on where and when this occurred.<br />
<br />
=== What written evidence did the purveyors of The Patriarchy in the past leave behind? ===<br />
<br />
If Patriarchy existed in the past those maintaining the system would likely have had a theoretical basis for their activities and they would probably have written this down. Copies should survive.<br />
<br />
The requirement here is for written evidence of the systematic and intended oppression of women. Documents (such as the Torah and Christian Bible) that describe ancient cultural practices are not sufficient. This document would need to explicitly talk about the oppression of women, why it is done, how it is achieved, etc. Transmitting a complex system from father to son generation after generation unchanged would be implausible without written reference documents.<br />
<br />
Women who lived under patriarchy must have been aware of it. Did they leave any written records explicitely detailing the system used to oppress them?<br />
<br />
=== Did women ever try to rise up and fight it? ===<br />
<br />
Fighting in this context need not mean physical violence. The women of a village (or an entire society), realising their plight, could choose to leave en masse, fleeing their oppressors. Women could also fight the oppression of patriarchy by engaging in passive resistance. This would involve the women of a community (or a society) refusing to participate in their own oppression. They could collectively refuse to participate in any form of work that supported the society, and therefore their own oppression.<br />
<br />
If this ever occurred it would likely have been a significant event and would be in the written record of that society or a neighbouring society.<br />
<br />
It is worth noting that the [[MGTOW]] movement explicitly talks about men passively and lawfully resisting contributing to a state system that is hostile to them. If patriarchy existed, parallel attitudes should have existed among women.<br />
<br />
=== If so, what was the result? ===<br />
<br />
Did any of these women succeed in shaking off The Patriarchy? For those that did not succeed, what was the punishment? How many women where tortured, killed or exiled by the men of their society for the failed uprising? How many women were punished in other ways? When uprisings are suppressed it is common for the ruling class to publicise the unsuccessful uprising and the punishments meted out so as to dissuade others. Records detailing an event like this should still exist.<br />
<br />
=== Why did The Patriarchy ever permit female rulers? ===<br />
<br />
Many societies had a minority of female rulers. Claims of patriarchy must explain why a patriarchal system would ever permit any female rulers. Some feminists attempt to explain the rise of women in to leadership roles as a result of [[intersectionality]].<ref>http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/faq-isnt-the-patriarchy-just-some-conspiracy-theory-that-blames-all-men-even-decent-men-for-womens-woes/</ref> The principle problem with this argument is that oppressors do not allow any member of an oppressed group in to the ruling class regardless of any other characteristics they have. Indeed, any members of the oppressed group that might be possible leaders are often eliminated by their oppressors.<br />
<br />
Those arguing for patriarchy must also explain why societies around the world allowed women to rule in their own right. Many examples are given here but many more examples exist. Each women below ruled over a powerful state. Some ruled in their own right and some as regents, but they were all autocrats. These women are listed with the continent(s) in which their power was centred as well as dates of birth and death. In some cases the dates of birth and death are approximate.<br />
<br />
* Merneith (Africa, 13th century BCE)<br />
* Hatshepsut (Africa, 1508-1458 BCE)<br />
* Artemisia I of Caria (Asia, 5th century BCE)<br />
* Olympias (Europe, 375-316 BCE)<br />
* Cleopatra Thea (Africa, 164-121 BCE)<br />
* Cleopatra VII (Africa, 69-30 BCE)<br />
* Boudica (Europe, 20-60 CE)<br />
* Zenobia (West Asia, 240-275 CE)<br />
* Empress Suiko (East Asia, 554-628 CE)<br />
* Empress Wu Zetian (East Asia, 625-705 CE)<br />
* Irene of Athens (West Asia, 752-803 CE)<br />
* Theophano (West Asia, 943-969 CE)<br />
* Theophano (Europe, 956-991 CE)<br />
* Margaret of Austria (Europe, 1480-1530 CE)<br />
* Catherine of Austria (Europe, 1507-1578 CE)<br />
* Mary I (Europe, 1516-1558 CE)<br />
* Elizabeth I (Europe, 1533-1603 CE)<br />
* Joan of Austria (Europe, 1535-1573 CE)<br />
* Mary Queen of Scots (Europe, 1542-1587 CE)<br />
* Catherine the Great (Europe, 1729-1796 CE)<br />
<br />
Societies from the Americas are lacking from the list above due to lack of historical records. It is likely that ancient societies in the Americas had similar proportions of female rulers. Female rulers, while a minority, were common around the world.<br />
<br />
=== Why did The Patriarchy ever permit powerful female figures in mythology? ===<br />
<br />
Powerful female figures are a mainstay of mythology. Many ancient <br />
<br />
* Columbia/Lady Liberty representing the US<br />
* Many ancient goddesses<br />
** In particular Athena, goddess of wisdom<br />
<br />
== If it exists, can The Patriarchy be destroyed? ==<br />
<br />
Let's presume for a moment that The Patriarchy is real. Let's presume for a moment that men have systematically oppressed women for thousands of years (or longer) through the use of violence. Where does that lead us?<br />
<br />
If this is true then it is either something that is innate to men or it is learnt behaviour - something that men have passed to their sons for hundreds of generations. It is not reasonable to conclude that a system like this could be maintained without it either being innate or being explicitly passed from generation to generation. A system functioning for hundreds or thousands of years will leave a ''paper trail''.<br />
<br />
Much feminist activity today is directed at changing male behaviour to ''dismantle'' The Patriarchy.<br />
<br />
If The Patriarchy is innate then it cannot reasonably be dismantled through modification of male behaviour.<br />
<br />
If The Patriarchy is a learnt behaviour then there must be documentary evidence of its existence.<br />
<br />
Since we find no documentary evidence of The Patriarchy we must conclude that if it does exist it must be innate.<br />
<br />
Therefore, feminist attempts at dismantling The Patriarchy are futile. If The Patriarchy really does exist then it is innate to masculinity and cannot be removed from the nature of men. If The Patriarchy really does exist then the only way women can be free of it is to [[separatist feminist|separate]] themselves completely from men.<br />
<br />
Continued attempts to modify male behaviour are futile. Women who believe in The Patriarchy should forthwith make plans to completely separate themselves from men. Men, and the women who realise the world is more complex than this, can happily go on without them.<br />
<br />
== Beyond The Patriarchy ==<br />
<br />
Some opponents of the men's rights movement have tried to argue that criticism of the feminist notion of The Patriarchy is pointless since academic feminists now emphasise kyriarchy rather than The Patriarchy. Even if this is true, which is questionable, academic feminists taught The Patriarchy to impressionable young women in gender studies classes for 40 years. Even if the academic feminists have moved on, those that they taught for so long have not. Enormous numbers of women and men believe in the feminist notion of The Patriarchy and the men's rights movement is right to confront it and reveal it as a myth.<br />
<br />
The originator of the term, Elisabeth Schussler Fiorenza, defines kyriarchy as:<br />
<br />
a neologism…derived from the Greek words for “lord” or “master” (kyrios) and “to rule or dominate” (archein) which seeks<br />
to redefine the analytic category of The Patriarchy in terms of multiplicative intersecting structures of domination… Kyriarchy<br />
is best theorized as a complex pyramidal system of intersecting multiplicative social structures of superordination and<br />
subordination, of ruling and oppression.<ref>http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/04/kyriarchy-101/</ref><br />
<br />
As can be seen here, the very definition of the term, uttered by the originator of the term continues to see The Patriarchy as central to this new term.<br />
<br />
In moving from The Patriarchy to kyriarchy feminists themselves are showing that The Patriarchy was a flawed and overly simplistic idea. Kyriarchy itself is still overly simplistic by considering the alleged oppression of women by men as central to the concept.<br />
<br />
== See Also ==<br />
<br />
* [[Kyriarchy]]<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
<br />
* [http://womenshistory.about.com/od/feminism/a/patriarchal.htm Patriarchy defined at Women's History]<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<br />
[[Category:Featured Articles]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=The_Absurdity_of_Patriarchy&diff=7019The Absurdity of Patriarchy2020-02-26T19:21:36Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>The notion of '''The Patriarchy''' espoused by feminists has gone from being a radical fringe view to being mainstream not only among feminists but the wider community. The definition of patriarchy used by feminists differs from that used by anthropologists, sociologists and other researchers as well as differing from the common dictionary definition. These two concepts are entirely distinct and should not be confused. Due to the significant differences in meaning that this term has, anyone using it should clearly define the term before making their argument. Feminists often refer to ''The Patriarchy''. This usage distinguishes it from non-feminist usage and was originally coined by the American feminist writer, Kate Millet.<ref>https://www.academia.edu/5488906/Patriarchy_Feminist_Theory_encyclopedia_essay_on_concept_of_patriarchy_</ref> MRAs are encouraged to refer to the feminist concept as ''The Patriarchy'', using a term coined by one of their own to distinguish it from the term as used within scientific circles. Feminism relies heavily on the confusion between these two definitions and MRAs shouldn't contribute to that confusion. MRAs and anti-feminists would be better served by making it clear that the feminist definition of The Patriarchy is entirely distinct from the similar term ''patriarchy''.<br />
<br />
If the Men's Rights Movement could tear down belief in The Patriarchy it could make huge inroads in to getting the wider community to accept the issues facing men and boys.<br />
<br />
Feminists differ in their understanding of The Patriarchy. Some believe it has always existed while others believe it appeared a few thousand years ago.<ref>http://www.midwifingdeath.com/musings/patriarchy_in_our_world.html</ref> Some even believe there was an [[ancient matriarchy]] that was defeated by warlike patriarchal societies.<ref>http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2742/earth-mother-has-there-ever-been-a-true-matriarchal-culture</ref> Belief in an ancient matriarchy is usually based on on the notion that ancient societies were unaware of the connection between sexual intercourse and pregnancy. The idea that ancient societies (particularly hunger-gatherers) were unaware of this apparently obvious fact first arose among 19th century European natural philosophers, although many feminists who espouse it are apparently unaware of its origins. Today anthropologists and sociologists consider the idea absurd. There has never been a human society that didn't know where babies come from.<br />
<br />
There is never-the-less general acceptance among feminists that The Patriarchy is based on the systematic oppression of women by men <ref>http://feminismandreligion.com/2013/02/18/patriarchy-as-an-integral-system-of-male-dominance-created-at-the-intersection-of-the-control-of-women-private-property-and-war-part-1-by-carol-p-christ/</ref> and is a constant of gender relations around the world.<br />
<br />
Feminists often tell us that they want to ''Destroy The Patriarchy'',<ref>https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/destroy-the-patriarchy</ref><ref>https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120129161208AAPRnyG</ref><ref>http://evilfeminist.tumblr.com/post/48289430757/what-men-can-do-to-destroy-the-patriarchy-without</ref> ''Dismantle The Patriarchy'',<ref>http://organizingchange.org/patriarchy-persists-can-change/</ref><ref>http://letterbyafeminist.blogspot.com.au/2009/10/patriarchy-101.html</ref><ref>https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130627185749AANM9Jo</ref> or ''Smash The Patriarchy''.<ref>[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/style/carol-gilligan.html]</ref><ref>[https://yourdream.liveyourdream.org/2017/06/six-ways-to-smash-the-patriarchy/]</ref><ref>[https://www.scarymommy.com/raising-boys-smash-patriarchy/]</ref><br />
Implicit in this desire are two important points:<br />
<br />
* The Patriarchy exists<br />
* If it does, that it can be destroyed<br />
<br />
So does The Patriarchy exist? If so, can it be destroyed?<br />
<br />
== Definitions ==<br />
<br />
=== Sample Feminist Definition ===<br />
<br />
The ''London Feminist Network'' defines Patriarchy as:<ref>http://londonfeministnetwork.org.uk/home/patriarchy</ref><br />
<br />
''Patriarchy is the term used to describe the society in which we live today, characterised by current and historic unequal power relations between women and men whereby women are systematically disadvantaged and oppressed. This takes place across almost every sphere of life but is particularly noticeable in women’s under-representation in key state institutions, in decision-making positions and in employment and industry. Male violence against women is also a key feature of patriarchy. Women in minority groups face multiple oppressions in this society, as race, class and sexuality intersect with sexism for example.''<br />
<br />
This is a fairly typical definition of The Patriarchy within mainstream feminism.<ref>http://sc2220.wikifoundry.com/page/PATRIARCHY</ref><ref>http://gem.greenwood.com/wse/wsePrint.jsp?id=id496</ref><br />
<br />
=== Dictionary Definition ===<br />
<br />
In contrast, ''dictionary.com'' defines patriarchy like this:<br />
<br />
''pa·tri·arch·y [pey-tree-ahr-kee] Show IPA noun, plural pa·tri·arch·ies.''<br />
<br />
# ''a form of social organization in which the father is the supreme authority in the family, clan, or tribe and descent is reckoned in the male line, with the children belonging to the father's clan or tribe.''<br />
# ''a society, community, or country based on this social organization.''<br />
<br />
The feminist notion of The Patriarchy is unfalsifiable.<br />
<br />
The Patriarchy, as defined by feminists, does not exist and never did exist. At best it is indicative of a very simplistic world view. At worst it is indicative of an ideological need to denigrate men and boys.<br />
<br />
A belief in The Patriarchy is used by feminists to justify their anti-male activities. If men have oppressed women through the use of violence for thousands of years, surely it is ok to respond in kind.<br />
<br />
Much of the criticism levelled at men by feminists is justified by a belief in The Patriarchy. Mainstream feminism posits that men have an intrinsic advantage in society merely for being men. They call this ''privilege'' and constantly entreat people to check it. This is a very binary view of the world, presuming that one gender has an intrinsic advantage over the other. It would be more accurate to say that both men and women have problems specific to their gender. Unfortunately feminists have shown a consistent trend of ignoring the problems facing men and boys, and much of this occurs because they believe in The Patriarchy.<br />
<br />
== Does The Patriarchy exist? ==<br />
<br />
Anyone believing in The Patriarchy should try to answer the following questions in concrete terms.<br />
<br />
=== When and where did it start? ===<br />
<br />
If The Patriarchy existed and exists, it must have started somewhere.<ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/20o6yv/how_can_i_convince_my_friend_that_horrible_acts/cg567wx</ref> Be specific in providing information on where and when this occurred.<br />
<br />
=== What written evidence did the purveyors of The Patriarchy in the past leave behind? ===<br />
<br />
If Patriarchy existed in the past those maintaining the system would likely have had a theoretical basis for their activities and they would probably have written this down. Copies should survive.<br />
<br />
The requirement here is for written evidence of the systematic and intended oppression of women. Documents (such as the Torah and Christian Bible) that describe ancient cultural practices are not sufficient. This document would need to explicitly talk about the oppression of women, why it is done, how it is achieved, etc. Transmitting a complex system from father to son generation after generation unchanged would be implausible without written reference documents.<br />
<br />
Women who lived under patriarchy must have been aware of it. Did they leave any written records explicitely detailing the system used to oppress them?<br />
<br />
=== Did women ever try to rise up and fight it? ===<br />
<br />
Fighting in this context need not mean physical violence. The women of a village (or an entire society), realising their plight, could choose to leave en masse, fleeing their oppressors. Women could also fight the oppression of patriarchy by engaging in passive resistance. This would involve the women of a community (or a society) refusing to participate in their own oppression. They could collectively refuse to participate in any form of work that supported the society, and therefore their own oppression.<br />
<br />
If this ever occurred it would likely have been a significant event and would be in the written record of that society or a neighbouring society.<br />
<br />
It is worth noting that the [[MGTOW]] movement explicitly talks about men passively and lawfully resisting contributing to a state system that is hostile to them. If patriarchy existed, parallel attitudes should have existed among women.<br />
<br />
=== If so, what was the result? ===<br />
<br />
Did any of these women succeed in shaking off The Patriarchy? For those that did not succeed, what was the punishment? How many women where tortured, killed or exiled by the men of their society for the failed uprising? How many women were punished in other ways? When uprisings are suppressed it is common for the ruling class to publicise the unsuccessful uprising and the punishments meted out so as to dissuade others. Records detailing an event like this should still exist.<br />
<br />
=== Why did The Patriarchy ever permit female rulers? ===<br />
<br />
Many societies had a minority of female rulers. Claims of patriarchy must explain why a patriarchal system would ever permit any female rulers. Some feminists attempt to explain the rise of women in to leadership roles as a result of [[intersectionality]].<ref>http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/faq-isnt-the-patriarchy-just-some-conspiracy-theory-that-blames-all-men-even-decent-men-for-womens-woes/</ref> The principle problem with this argument is that oppressors do not allow any member of an oppressed group in to the ruling class regardless of any other characteristics they have. Indeed, any members of the oppressed group that might be possible leaders are often eliminated by their oppressors.<br />
<br />
Those arguing for patriarchy must also explain why societies around the world allowed women to rule in their own right. Many examples are given here but many more examples exist. Each women below ruled over a powerful state. Some ruled in their own right and some as regents, but they were all autocrats. These women are listed with the continent(s) in which their power was centred as well as dates of birth and death. In some cases the dates of birth and death are approximate.<br />
<br />
* Merneith (Africa, 13th century BCE)<br />
* Hatshepsut (Africa, 1508-1458 BCE)<br />
* Artemisia I of Caria (Asia, 5th century BCE)<br />
* Olympias (Europe, 375-316 BCE)<br />
* Cleopatra Thea (Africa, 164-121 BCE)<br />
* Cleopatra VII (Africa, 69-30 BCE)<br />
* Boudica (Europe, 20-60 CE)<br />
* Zenobia (West Asia, 240-275 CE)<br />
* Empress Suiko (East Asia, 554-628 CE)<br />
* Empress Wu Zetian (East Asia, 625-705 CE)<br />
* Irene of Athens (West Asia, 752-803 CE)<br />
* Theophano (West Asia, 943-969 CE)<br />
* Theophano (Europe, 956-991 CE)<br />
* Margaret of Austria (Europe, 1480-1530 CE)<br />
* Catherine of Austria (Europe, 1507-1578 CE)<br />
* Mary I (Europe, 1516-1558 CE)<br />
* Elizabeth I (Europe, 1533-1603 CE)<br />
* Joan of Austria (Europe, 1535-1573 CE)<br />
* Mary Queen of Scots (Europe, 1542-1587 CE)<br />
* Catherine the Great (Europe, 1729-1796 CE)<br />
<br />
Societies from the Americas are lacking from the list above due to lack of historical records. It is likely that ancient societies in the Americas had similar proportions of female rulers. Female rulers, while a minority, were common around the world.<br />
<br />
=== Why did The Patriarchy ever permit powerful female figures in mythology? ===<br />
<br />
Powerful female figures are a mainstay of mythology. Many ancient <br />
<br />
* Columbia/Lady Liberty representing the US<br />
* Many ancient goddesses<br />
** In particular Athena, goddess of wisdom<br />
<br />
== If it exists, can The Patriarchy be destroyed? ==<br />
<br />
Let's presume for a moment that The Patriarchy is real. Let's presume for a moment that men have systematically oppressed women for thousands of years (or longer) through the use of violence. Where does that lead us?<br />
<br />
If this is true then it is either something that is innate to men or it is learnt behaviour - something that men have passed to their sons for hundreds of generations. It is not reasonable to conclude that a system like this could be maintained without it either being innate or being explicitly passed from generation to generation. A system functioning for hundreds or thousands of years will leave a ''paper trail''.<br />
<br />
Much feminist activity today is directed at changing male behaviour to ''dismantle'' The Patriarchy.<br />
<br />
If The Patriarchy is innate then it cannot reasonably be dismantled through modification of male behaviour.<br />
<br />
If The Patriarchy is a learnt behaviour then there must be documentary evidence of its existence.<br />
<br />
Since we find no documentary evidence of The Patriarchy we must conclude that if it does exist it must be innate.<br />
<br />
Therefore, feminist attempts at dismantling The Patriarchy are futile. If The Patriarchy really does exist then it is innate to masculinity and cannot be removed from the nature of men. If The Patriarchy really does exist then the only way women can be free of it is to [[separatist feminist|separate]] themselves completely from men.<br />
<br />
Continued attempts to modify male behaviour are futile. Women who believe in The Patriarchy should forthwith make plans to completely separate themselves from men. Men, and the women who realise the world is more complex than this, can happily go on without them.<br />
<br />
== Beyond The Patriarchy ==<br />
<br />
Some opponents of the men's rights movement have tried to argue that criticism of the feminist notion of The Patriarchy is pointless since academic feminists now emphasise kyriarchy rather than The Patriarchy. Even if this is true, which is questionable, academic feminists taught The Patriarchy to impressionable young women in gender studies classes for 40 years. Even if the academic feminists have moved on, those that they taught for so long have not. Enormous numbers of women and men believe in the feminist notion of The Patriarchy and the men's rights movement is right to confront it and reveal it as a myth.<br />
<br />
The originator of the term, Elisabeth Schussler Fiorenza, defines kyriarchy as:<br />
<br />
a neologism…derived from the Greek words for “lord” or “master” (kyrios) and “to rule or dominate” (archein) which seeks<br />
to redefine the analytic category of The Patriarchy in terms of multiplicative intersecting structures of domination… Kyriarchy<br />
is best theorized as a complex pyramidal system of intersecting multiplicative social structures of superordination and<br />
subordination, of ruling and oppression.<ref>http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/04/kyriarchy-101/</ref><br />
<br />
As can be seen here, the very definition of the term, uttered by the originator of the term continues to see The Patriarchy as central to this new term.<br />
<br />
In moving from The Patriarchy to kyriarchy feminists themselves are showing that The Patriarchy was a flawed and overly simplistic idea. Kyriarchy itself is still overly simplistic by considering the alleged oppression of women by men as central to the concept.<br />
<br />
== See Also ==<br />
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* [[Kyriarchy]]<br />
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== External Links ==<br />
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* [http://womenshistory.about.com/od/feminism/a/patriarchal.htm Patriarchy defined at Women's History]<br />
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== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Featured Articles]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7018Reddit2020-02-26T19:17:35Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: /* Subreddits of note */</p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLibWatch r/MensLibWatch]: A subreddit dedicated to calling out the hypocrisy, misandry, and general irrationality found on r/MensLib. <br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Warren_Farrell&diff=7017Warren Farrell2020-02-26T18:47:06Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>'''Warren Farrell''' is a leading voice in the men's rights movement. He began as a [[feminist]] during the movement's second wave due to his belief in equality. However, he was denounced by feminists due to his support of father's rights and other men's issues.<ref>http://www.menweb.org/svofarre.htm</ref> As such, he became disillusioned with the feminist movement despite still caring about women's rights. He began shifting his focus towards men's issues.<br />
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Arguably a turning point in Farrell's role in the men's rights movement came in 1993, when he published ''[[The Myth of Male Power]]''. The book, still seen as a mainstay in men's rights communities, examines the blind spots of [[feminism]] and [[patriarchy]] theory and points at the various sacrifices men are expected to make by traditional gender roles. He discusses concepts such as [[male disposability]], self-sacrifice, and the idea that men are expected to be "success objects" that give status and money to their significant others.<br />
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==References==<br />
[[category:Biographies]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Trans-exclusionary_radical_feminist&diff=7016Trans-exclusionary radical feminist2020-02-26T17:20:16Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>A trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) is a [[feminist]] that rejects that inclusion of [[trans women]] and the problems facing the trans community in the feminist movement. The term was apparently coined by Viv Smythe in 2008.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/29/im-credited-with-having-coined-the-acronym-terf-heres-how-it-happened</ref><br />
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Their dislike of transgender people stems from [[misandry]].<ref>https://medium.com/@Male_Intuition/the-aspect-of-transphobia-no-ones-talking-about-misandry-dcac6131a835</ref> Specifically, they believe that trans men are gender traitors who are leaving the "sisterhood" to oppress women, while trans women are predatory men who wish to engage in violence and sexual assault towards women. Though mainstream feminists often denounce TERFs' transphobia, they rarely acknowledge the group's misandry, probably because they would then be forced to admit that they too hold rampant misandry.<br />
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== External Links ==<br />
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*[http://www.newnownext.com/anti-trans-lesbian-protest-terfs-lead-disrupt-london-pride-parade/07/2018/ TERF Blog]<br />
*[https://getthelout.wordpress.com/blog/ TERF Blog]<br />
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical TERF subreddit]<br />
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== References ==<br />
<br />
[[Category:Featured Articles]]<br />
[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Glossary]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Trans-exclusionary_radical_feminist&diff=7015Trans-exclusionary radical feminist2020-02-26T17:20:05Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>A trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) is a [[feminist]] that rejects that inclusion of [[trans women]] and the problems facing the trans community in the feminist movement. The term was apparently coined by Viv Smythe in 2008.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/29/im-credited-with-having-coined-the-acronym-terf-heres-how-it-happened</ref><br />
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Their dislike of transgender people stems from [[misandry]].<ref>[https://medium.com/@Male_Intuition/the-aspect-of-transphobia-no-ones-talking-about-misandry-dcac6131a835]</ref> Specifically, they believe that trans men are gender traitors who are leaving the "sisterhood" to oppress women, while trans women are predatory men who wish to engage in violence and sexual assault towards women. Though mainstream feminists often denounce TERFs' transphobia, they rarely acknowledge the group's misandry, probably because they would then be forced to admit that they too hold rampant misandry.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
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*[http://www.newnownext.com/anti-trans-lesbian-protest-terfs-lead-disrupt-london-pride-parade/07/2018/ TERF Blog]<br />
*[https://getthelout.wordpress.com/blog/ TERF Blog]<br />
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical TERF subreddit]<br />
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== References ==<br />
<br />
[[Category:Featured Articles]]<br />
[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Glossary]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Trans-exclusionary_radical_feminist&diff=7014Trans-exclusionary radical feminist2020-02-26T17:19:05Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>A trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) is a [[feminist]] that rejects that inclusion of [[trans women]] and the problems facing the trans community in the feminist movement. The term was apparently coined by Viv Smythe in 2008.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/29/im-credited-with-having-coined-the-acronym-terf-heres-how-it-happened</ref><br />
<br />
Their dislike of transgender people stems from [[misandry]]. Specifically, they believe that trans men are gender traitors who are leaving the "sisterhood" to oppress women, while trans women are predatory men who wish to engage in violence and sexual assault towards women. Though mainstream feminists often denounce TERFs' transphobia, they rarely acknowledge the group's misandry, probably because they would then be forced to admit that they too hold rampant misandry.<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.newnownext.com/anti-trans-lesbian-protest-terfs-lead-disrupt-london-pride-parade/07/2018/ TERF Blog]<br />
*[https://getthelout.wordpress.com/blog/ TERF Blog]<br />
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical TERF subreddit]<br />
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== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Featured Articles]]<br />
[[Category:Feminism]]<br />
[[Category:Glossary]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7013Reddit2020-02-26T17:16:50Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: /* Subreddits of note */</p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[TERF]]s to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7012Reddit2020-02-26T17:16:08Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[trans exclusionary radical feminists]] to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7011Reddit2020-02-26T17:13:59Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
<hr />
<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists r/antifeminists]: A subreddit for people who are opposed to either all feminism or simply modern feminism.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[trans exclusionary radical feminists]] to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/intactivists r/intactivists]: a subreddit for [[intactivist]]s to discuss the cruelty of genital mutilation.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out hateful Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7010Reddit2020-02-26T17:03:59Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: /* Subreddits of note */</p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
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== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A misandric subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[trans exclusionary radical feminists]] to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out hateful Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=White_knight&diff=7009White knight2020-02-26T17:03:10Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>A white knight is a man who defends women because they are women. They are usually but not always male [[feminist]]s. This can take many forms, from white knights automatically backing women's arguments to them attacking a man on behalf of a woman, resulting in [[proxy violence]]. White knight is a pejorative term among [[MRA]]s and other online men's groups..<br />
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== See Also ==<br />
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*[[Simp]]<br />
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[[Category:Featured Articles]]<br />
[[Category:Glossary]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7008Reddit2020-02-26T17:02:42Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
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== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A hateful subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* r/braincels: A now-banned subreddit that discussed life from the incel perspective. Though a good idea, it was plagued by rampant misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[trans exclusionary radical feminists]] to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRants r/MensRants]: A subreddit for ranting about the double standards which face men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW r/MGTOW]: A subreddit for [[MGTOW]]s to discuss independent life. Some good discussions, but an unfortunate amount of misogyny.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2 r/MGTOW2]]: Another MGTOW subreddit, made to avoid the problems of the primary one. Much more level-headed and supportive.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/NotHowGuysWork r/NotHowGuysWork]: A subreddit critiquing examples of misinformation about men and the male mind.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol r/stupidpol]: A left wing subreddit making fun of identity politics, including those by feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ToxicFemininity r/ToxicFemininity]: A subreddit for calling out feminist bigotry.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A misandric feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out hateful Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteKnighting r/WhiteKnighting]: A subreddit calling out online [[white knight]]s.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7007Reddit2020-02-26T16:51:21Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
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== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A hateful subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[trans exclusionary radical feminists]] to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A hateful feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out hateful Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Reddit&diff=7006Reddit2020-02-26T16:50:55Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: Created page with "Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject d..."</p>
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<div>Reddit is a popular social media platform founded in 2005. It is composed of various "subreddits", which are isolated communities where members can discuss any given subject depending on what a particular subreddit champions. The website is often seen as a central hub for men's rights discussions online, although particular subreddits range from highly sympathetic towards men's rights activism to extremely hostile towards it.<br />
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== Subreddits of note ==<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstMensRights r/AgainstMensRights]: A hateful subreddit which makes false claims about men's rights activists in order to justify its irrational dislike of the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy]: A subreddit for hateful women to justify misandric viewpoints and unfair expectations towards men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/FeMRADebates r/FeMRADebates]: A subreddit for feminists and men's rights activists to debate issues of gender equality.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical r/GenderCritical]: A subreddit for [[trans exclusionary radical feminists]] to spread transphobia and misandry. Almost universally hated by other subreddits.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs r/LadyMRAs]: A subreddit for women who support the cause of men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates]: A subreddit for members of the political left to discuss men's rights issues.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib r/MensLib]: A subreddit run by [[feminist]]s for supposedly discussing men's issues. However, much of the sub's discussion reinforces incorrect ideas such as the [[apex fallacy]], [[patriarchy theory]], and [[toxic masculinity]], and blames men for most if not all of their own and women's problems.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights r/MensRights]: A subreddit for men's rights activists to discuss the various issues which affect men and boys.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRightsLaw r/MensRightsLaw]: A subreddit that discusses men's rights through a legal lens.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks r/MensRightsLinks]: A subreddit which allows users to post academic studies and articles backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRActivism r/MRActivism]: A subreddit raising awareness towards activism related to men's rights.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes r/MRAmemes]: A subreddit for posting memes related to men's rights activism.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/MRRef r/MRRef]: Another subreddit providing references backing up men's rights talking points.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PinkPillFeminism r/PinkPillFeminism]: A subreddit for hateful women to endorse ideas of female superiority.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective r/ProMaleCollective]: A subreddit for men who do not consider themselves part of the [[manosphere]] but who do consider themselves pro-male. Though it makes some good points, it is often irrationally hostile towards the men's rights movement.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass r/PussyPass]: A subreddit intended to reflect the double standards that favor women. However, it sometimes hosts misogynists who simply look for excuses to dislike women.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPassDenied r/PussyPassDenied]: Same as r/PussyPass, but more focused on the times when women are unexpectedly not granted advantages.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill r/TheRedPill]: A subreddit for people who generally believe in the idea that traditional gender roles must be followed to live an ideal life. Though it makes some good points about self improvement as well as about the standards men are held to, it holds misogynistic ideas that women are childish and must always be protected. It also shames men for not conforming to traditional gender roles.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks r/SRSsucks]: A subreddit for critiquing statements by so-called progressives, particularly feminists.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes]: A hateful feminist subreddit supposedly focusing on humor from a female perspective, but actually primarily used as a source to shame men.<br />
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction r/TumblrInAction]: A subreddit for calling out hateful Tumblr feminists' hateful and hypocritical ideas.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=The_Myth_of_Male_Power&diff=7005The Myth of Male Power2020-02-26T16:27:07Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: Created page with "''The Myth of Male Power'' is a 1993 book by Dr. Warren Farrell. It is frequently hailed as a foundational work of the men's rights movement. The book critiques the fl..."</p>
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<div>''The Myth of Male Power'' is a 1993 book by Dr. [[Warren Farrell]]. It is frequently hailed as a foundational work of the [[men's rights movement]]. The book critiques the flaws of [[feminism]] and [[patriarchy]] theory. It explains the various manners in which men are held back in society. It particularly focuses on [[male disposability]], the expectation for men to make sacrifices, and the notion that men must be "success objects" so that women can enjoy unearned status, wealth, and power from men.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Warren_Farrell&diff=7004Warren Farrell2020-02-26T16:23:28Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>'''Warren Farrell''' is a leading voice in the men's rights movement. He began as a [[feminist]] during the movement's second wave due to his belief in equality. However, he was denounced by feminists due to his support of father's rights and other men's issues.<ref>http://www.menweb.org/svofarre.htm</ref> As such, he became disillusioned with the feminist movement despite still caring about women's rights. He began shifting his focus towards men's issues.<br />
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Arguably a turning point in Farrell's role in the men's rights movement came in 1993, when he published ''[[The Myth of Male Power]]''. The book, still seen as a mainstay in men's rights communities, examines the blind spots of [[feminism]] and [[patriarchy]] theory and points at the various sacrifices men are expected to make by traditional gender roles. He discusses concepts such as [[male disposability]], self-sacrifice, and the idea that men are expected to be "success objects" that give status and money to their significant others.<br />
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==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=The_Red_Pill&diff=7003The Red Pill2020-02-26T16:23:09Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>The Red Pill is a documentary on the [[men's rights movement]] made by [[Cassie Jaye]]. Though it was originally planned to denounce the movement's alleged misogyny, upon learning that the movement was generally focused in equality, Jaye shifted the focus of the film to be more sympathetic. It includes interviews with prominent men's rights activists such as [[Paul Elam]], [[Warren Farrell]], and the [[Honey badgers]], as well as with notable feminists.<br />
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Jaye found it difficult to receive funding for a film that was sympathetic towards the men's rights movement. As such, she set up a Kickstarter campaign in order to fund it independently. A common misconception is that the movie was primarily funded by men's rights activists, but in actuality the majority of funders were merely free speech advocates who lacked strong opinions on the gender debate.<ref>http://www.dailydot.com/irl/red-pill-mens-rights-documentary/</ref><br />
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The film was met with great controversy by feminists. In particular, a petition arose in Australia to prevent its showing,<ref>http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/news-features/melbournes-palace-cinemas-cancel-screenings-of-mra-documentary-the-red-pill-after-petition-20161025-gsa79y.html</ref> and the University of Calgary cancelled a screening of the film.<ref>http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/wildrose-on-campus-fire-comms-director-1.4012824</ref> However, it was well received with men's rights activists due to its sympathetic and honest examination of the movement.<br />
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[[Category:Men's Rights]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Toxic_masculinity&diff=7002Toxic masculinity2020-02-26T16:22:07Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Toxic masculinity is a term used by feminists in order to account for the problems allegedly caused by men. Sometimes it is used to describe violence and sexual crimes towards others enacted by men. <ref>https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/what-we-mean-when-we-say-toxic-masculinity</ref><ref>https://www.runnersworld.com/women/a29196004/toxic-masculinity/</ref> This discounts the violence, particularly domestic violence and sexual violence, which is just as likely if not more so to be enacted by women.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/</ref> Other times it is used to refer to the tendency of men to avoid acknowledging their emotions.<ref>https://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/toxic_masculinity_is_killing_men_the_roots_of_male_trauma_partner/</ref><ref>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/01/seriously-meryl-streep-toxic-masculinity-doesnt-hurt-men-it-kills-them</ref> Though this idea is certainly more factually grounded than the other one, it neglects to take into account the biological tendency of men to express their emotions through actions rather than discussions,<ref>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-men-and-women-process_n_6510160</ref> as well as the fact that gendered male behaviors are often more encouraged by women than other men.<ref>https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-mothers-have-boys-dont-cry-bias-new-study-suggests/</ref> Some sources even conflate the two clearly unrelated phenomena.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/us/toxic-masculinity.html</ref><ref>https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/toxic-masculinity-definition-what-is-boys-men-gillette-ad-behaviour-attitude-girls-women-a8729336.html</ref><br />
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In general, the term toxic masculinity is deliberately incendiary and intended to shut down rather than facilitate discussion. The people who came up with that term were not interested in helping men and boys.<br />
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==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Toxic_masculinity&diff=7001Toxic masculinity2020-02-26T16:21:50Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Toxic masculinity is a term used by feminists in order to account for the problems allegedly caused by men. Sometimes it is used to describe violence and sexual crimes towards others enacted by men. <ref>https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/what-we-mean-when-we-say-toxic-masculinity</ref><ref>https://www.runnersworld.com/women/a29196004/toxic-masculinity/</ref> This discounts the violence, particularly domestic violence and sexual violence, which is just as likely if not more so to be enacted by women.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence</ref><ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/</ref> Other times it is used to refer to the tendency of men to avoid acknowledging their emotions.<ref>https://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/toxic_masculinity_is_killing_men_the_roots_of_male_trauma_partner/</ref><ref>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/01/seriously-meryl-streep-toxic-masculinity-doesnt-hurt-men-it-kills-them</ref> Though this idea is certainly more factually grounded than the other one, it neglects to take into account the biological tendency of men to express their emotions through actions rather than discussions,<ref>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-men-and-women-process_n_6510160</ref> as well as the fact that gendered male behaviors are often more encouraged by women than other men.<ref>https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-mothers-have-boys-dont-cry-bias-new-study-suggests/</ref> Some sources even conflate the two clearly unrelated phenomena.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/us/toxic-masculinity.html</ref><ref>https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/toxic-masculinity-definition-what-is-boys-men-gillette-ad-behaviour-attitude-girls-women-a8729336.html</ref><br />
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In general, the term toxic masculinity is deliberately incendiary and intended to shut down rather than facilitate discussion. The people who came up with that term were not interested in helping men and boys.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Toxic_masculinity&diff=7000Toxic masculinity2020-02-26T16:20:13Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Toxic masculinity is a term used by feminists in order to account for the problems allegedly caused by men. Sometimes it is used to describe violence and sexual crimes towards others enacted by men. <ref>[https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/what-we-mean-when-we-say-toxic-masculinity]</ref><ref>[https://www.runnersworld.com/women/a29196004/toxic-masculinity/]</ref> This discounts the violence, particularly domestic violence and sexual violence, which is just as likely if not more so to be enacted by women.<ref>[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence]</ref><ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/]</ref> Other times it is used to refer to the tendency of men to avoid acknowledging their emotions.<ref>[https://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/toxic_masculinity_is_killing_men_the_roots_of_male_trauma_partner/]</ref><ref>[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/01/seriously-meryl-streep-toxic-masculinity-doesnt-hurt-men-it-kills-them]</ref> Though this idea is certainly more factually grounded than the other one, it neglects to take into account the biological tendency of men to express their emotions through actions rather than discussions,<ref>[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-men-and-women-process_n_6510160]</ref> as well as the fact that gendered male behaviors are often more encouraged by women than other men.<ref>[https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-mothers-have-boys-dont-cry-bias-new-study-suggests/]</ref> Some sources even conflate the two clearly unrelated phenomena.<ref>[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/us/toxic-masculinity.html]</ref><ref>[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/toxic-masculinity-definition-what-is-boys-men-gillette-ad-behaviour-attitude-girls-women-a8729336.html]</ref><br />
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In general, the term toxic masculinity is deliberately incendiary and intended to shut down rather than facilitate discussion. The people who came up with that term were not interested in helping men and boys.</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Warren_Farrell&diff=6999Warren Farrell2020-02-26T15:59:11Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: Created page with "'''Warren Farrell''' is a leading voice in the men's rights movement. He began as a feminist during the movement's second wave due to his belief in equality. However, he w..."</p>
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<div>'''Warren Farrell''' is a leading voice in the men's rights movement. He began as a [[feminist]] during the movement's second wave due to his belief in equality. However, he was denounced by feminists due to his support of father's rights and other men's issues.<ref>[http://www.menweb.org/svofarre.htm]</ref> As such, he became disillusioned with the feminist movement despite still caring about women's rights. He began shifting his focus towards men's issues.<br />
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Arguably a turning point in Farrell's role in the men's rights movement came in 1993, when he published ''[[The Myth of Male Power]]''. The book, still seen as a mainstay in men's rights communities, examines the blind spots of [[feminism]] and [[patriarchy]] theory and points at the various sacrifices men are expected to make by traditional gender roles. He discusses concepts such as [[male disposability]], self-sacrifice, and the idea that men are expected to be "success objects" that give status and money to their significant others.<br />
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==References==</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=The_Red_Pill&diff=6998The Red Pill2020-02-26T15:54:04Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>The Red Pill is a documentary on the [[men's rights movement]] made by [[Cassie Jaye]]. Though it was originally planned to denounce the movement's alleged misogyny, upon learning that the movement was generally focused in equality, Jaye shifted the focus of the film to be more sympathetic. It includes interviews with prominent men's rights activists such as [[Paul Elam]], [[Warren Farrell]], and the [[Honey badgers]], as well as with notable feminists.<br />
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Jaye found it difficult to receive funding for a film that was sympathetic towards the men's rights movement. As such, she set up a Kickstarter campaign in order to fund it independently. A common misconception is that the movie was primarily funded by men's rights activists, but in actuality the majority of funders were merely free speech advocates who lacked strong opinions on the gender debate.<ref>[http://www.dailydot.com/irl/red-pill-mens-rights-documentary/]</ref><br />
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The film was met with great controversy by feminists. In particular, a petition arose in Australia to prevent its showing,<ref>[http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/news-features/melbournes-palace-cinemas-cancel-screenings-of-mra-documentary-the-red-pill-after-petition-20161025-gsa79y.html]</ref> and the University of Calgary cancelled a screening of the film.<ref>[http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/wildrose-on-campus-fire-comms-director-1.4012824]</ref> However, it was well received with men's rights activists due to its sympathetic and honest examination of the movement.<br />
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==References==<br />
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[[Category:Documentaries]]<br />
[[Category:Featured Articles]]<br />
[[Category:Men's Rights]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Cassie_Jaye&diff=6997Cassie Jaye2020-02-26T15:46:14Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Cassie Jaye is a documentary filmmaker best known for [[The Red Pill]], a documentary on the [[men's rights movement]] in the United States. Though originally planning to frame the film as a critique of the movement's alleged misogyny, upon actually interacting with the movement, she came to the conclusion that it was rooted more in equality than she initially believed. As such, the film was produced to be among the first widespread examples of sympathy towards the men's rights movement. That being said, Cassie Jaye has made it clear that while she no longer identifies as a feminist she is not an MRA.<br />
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She has been met with controversy within the feminist movement due to her rejection of the feminist narrative. The men's rights movement, by contrast, greatly respects her due to her willingness to take the movement seriously and respect its principles and goals.<br />
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[[Category:United States]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Cassie_Jaye&diff=6996Cassie Jaye2020-02-26T15:46:00Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Cassie Jaye is a documentary filmmaker best known for [[The Red Pill]], a documentary on the [[men's rights movement]] in the United States. Though originally planning to frame the film as a critique of the movement's alleged misogyny, upon actually interacting with the movement, she came to the conclusion that it was rooted more in equality than she initially believe. As such, the film was produced to be among the first widespread examples of sympathy towards the men's rights movement. That being said, Cassie Jaye has made it clear that while she no longer identifies as a feminist she is not an MRA.<br />
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She has been met with controversy within the feminist movement due to her rejection of the feminist narrative. The men's rights movement, by contrast, greatly respects her due to her willingness to take the movement seriously and respect its principles and goals.<br />
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[[Category:United States]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=Cassie_Jaye&diff=6995Cassie Jaye2020-02-26T15:43:11Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>Cassie Jaye is a documentary filmmaker best known for [[The Red Pill]], a documentary on the [[men's rights movement]] in the United States. Cassie Jaye has made it clear that while she no longer identifies as a feminist she is not an MRA.<br />
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She has been met with controversy within the feminist movement due to her rejection of the feminist narrative. The men's rights movement, by contrast, greatly respects her due to her willingness to take the movement seriously and respect its principles and goals.<br />
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[[Category:United States]]</div>Caleb Goldberghttps://wiki4men.com/w/index.php?title=A_Voice_for_Men&diff=6994A Voice for Men2020-02-26T15:41:26Z<p>Caleb Goldberg: </p>
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<div>A Voice for Men (AVfM or AVFM) is the flag ship site for the [[men's rights movement]]. AVfM was founded by and continues to be run by [[Paul Elam]]. Wiki4Men is brought to you by the [[Australian Men's Rights Association Inc]] and A Voice for Men.<br />
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It is known for its emotionally-laden and sometimes angry perspective. As such, some [[feminist]]s have denounced the site as misogynistic. However, most of the articles which have been interpreted as inflammatory are in fact satire of feminist publications which post unironic [[misandric]] double standards.<br />
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== External Links ==<br />
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*[http://www.avoiceformen.com A Voice for Men].<br />
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